What makes friction work for me isn't only about holding the derailleur position, ie: not having frame flex produce cable pull or the lever slip, but rather the tactile ability to quickly and accurately move to the next cog without need to trim. If the feedback required to do that is only sounds, perhaps the Campy cassette has a greater ability to cope silently with a bit of trim needed but is really close to engaging the ramps to the next cog (presuming your ghost shifting is to a larger cog).
On my Rambouillet I have 8-Spd Shimano cassette, Suntour Barcons and a fixed RD upper pulley (vs floating) Mavic 840/845 RD. I can feel the need for trim through the pedals and at the lever when making the shift. This is an easy to shift bike in situations with lots of noise. I found out last week riding this bike for the first time in a couple of years on a regular group ride that it does not accoustically telegraph my shifts compared to all the hollow/resonant CFRP index only shifting bikes (cable or wireless) drive trains. Those seem to cultivate pedaling through shifts, no matter how hard you are pedaling and some really audible shifting events. Unsure if this is just novice rider behavior or a rationalizing selling point for the more experienced rider who thinks easing on the pedals is weakness and a source of speed loss. Either way, others listen for shifting as a cue in groups, actively or passively and my drive train doesn't give it. On my commuter I have 8-Spd Shimano cassette, Shimano bar end shifters and a floating upper pulley Shimano XT RD. I cannot as accurately friction shift this drive train despite my commuting times providing a pretty quiet environment and still do not have as confident friction shifting due to less tactile feedback from either the levers or pedals and I mostly leave it in indexing mode. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:27:21 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: > I have been friction shifting my 10 speed campy set up. 11-26 X 44-28 > Crank is Sugino. > Was not happy with performance , ghosts shifts up when spinning & down > when stomping the pedals. > Switched up to a 34-11 Shimano > Nothing else changed > Seems to be working really well. > > Previous threads and literature suggests that the closer the cogs in 10 & > 11 speeds makes for better friction shifting. > > What has been your experience? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f14f3d5e-acc3-4143-bfa1-e17efa0b2da2n%40googlegroups.com.
