Seems to me that the Sam would be just fine for both, unless you have
a heavy rack/heavy tires on it.

I wanted a fast-ish, stripped-down skinny tire bike and found an old
Trek on Craiglist for $120.  Lots of great deals out there for nice
old steel bikes.

Ryan

On Jun 13, 7:46 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> If you like your Sam, you may be able to get the extra boost you want
> for cheap with an event wheel set.  You do not say what you are using
> currently, but if it is optimal for commuting, it is a probably
> heavier with wider tires.
>
> Get your favorite hubsets in 32h configuration, match them to a set of
> Velocity Aerohead rims, and finish it off with a good lightweight tire
> such as the Schwalbe Durano or Marathon Racer if you ride somewhere
> flats are a problem or the real light Ultermos if your roads are good.
>
> Hang this set in your storage area for all but events and the
> occasional training ride.
>
> Going this route will save you money, allow you to ride your favorite
> bike on long events where comfort and familiarity are important, yet
> still make a real difference.
>
> Or you can buy and build up a Roadeo ;)
>
> On Jun 13, 9:17 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hi folks,
>
> > i loved riding my first century recently, on a Sam Hillborne, but it was a 
> > pretty slow (though mostly comfortable) push. so the way i have it set up 
> > it's excellent for city commuting and loaded touring / randonneuring, but 
> > still think i want a gofast for club/training rides, built up with lighter 
> > wheels/rubber, etc.
>
> > the thing is - the expanded geometry of the Sam fits my build (and that of 
> > a few other odd ducks who have recently posted) at 5'11 with an 84.5 pbh, 
> > rounding up.
>
> > so - of the current frames new or in circulation, what lightish, 
> > expandedish frame should i be looking for for?  should i simply try another 
> > Sam?  maybe a size down with a longer stem?  :)
>
> > just musing - but i figured y'all would have some opinions.
>
> > thanks,
> > andrew

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