I guess I've viewed them more as Rivendell colors than as being associated with a specific frame - well, except for Atlantis green.
For as long as I've followed Rivendell, at some points I lapsed on being aware of exactly what the differences in the various models were (and still don't have as complete a historical picture as many here - though Eric's history threads help). That said the colors have been part of what make them identifiable as Riv bikes to me. Also the impression that "fancier" bikes get "fancier" (more sophisticated?) colors. -Dave On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:23:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Jason and Junes — I totally agree about the inspired color choices and the > amount of time they put into finding good colors. > > Jason — I agree about retiring colors every few years. > > Junes — You raise some good points and you actually get at something I've > had a hard time putting my finger on: brand confusion. Like you, I made > strong color and frame associations. Mermaid platypus, got it! That bike > was brand new, everyone got crazy excited about it, color is locked in to > my brain. And now the color is on all sorts of bikes. Including my > Appaloosa :) > > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:01:58 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote: > >> " an ocean of charcoal, slate, and black bikes"....just depressing. But >> maybe the right color for a beater you lock up downtown in the hopes that >> it'll still be there. Like I say, just depressing. >> >> Wasn't it Ford who said " you can have any color you want as long as it's >> black"? >> >> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 6:40:47 PM UTC-5 J J wrote: >> >>> In an ocean of charcoal, slate, and black bikes, I just appreciate the >>> wide range of colors Rivendell puts on their bikes. >>> >>> However, I have what I think is a minority opinion: I’m about 75 percent >>> in favor of no more than two specific colors for specific models (**with >>> exceptions for custom paint jobs, which are at the buyer’s discretion, with >>> Riv’s final approval of course**). The *production* colors become part >>> of a particular model's “brand" or visual identity. This is important. >>> >>> For example, it’s hard to imagine Atlantis production models in any >>> color other than the Atlantis blue/green… even though there are Atlantises >>> painted in lovely one-off colors. It would be odd if any other production >>> model were painted in the Atlantis color. The Atlantis geometry has changed >>> tremendously over the years. You might even say that the Atlantis >>> green/blue *is itself* a huge part of the Atlantis brand because the color >>> has been a constant through the various Atlantis permutations. >>> >>> Another example: I like that Hunqs came in two color schemes: the early >>> runs were grey and kidney bean red, and the later runs were green. Now >>> Joe’s fantastic custom was inspired by the grey and red Hunq scheme. But >>> it’s a custom, a one-off, slightly different, and ultimately it was Joe’s >>> prerogative. He made a very tasteful choice. >>> >>> I think the Platypus was the first model in mermaid (?). Anyway, when I >>> see mermaid I think Platypus, not Gus or anything else. I don’t get why any >>> model other than the Platypus should be in mermaid! It’s a strong brand >>> association. The lovely sparkly raspberry of Leah’s Platypus, being a >>> unique one off, does not weaken the Platypus mermaid brand because >>> raspberry was not a production color. >>> >>> And as much as I like the lovely olive green as a color, the number of >>> models in this green suggests brand confusion and inconsistency. >>> >>> I do think that variations of *similar* colors across model is fine. >>> They should be different enough not to confuse them, though. >>> >>> Like I said, my opinion is probably in the small minority. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Wyatt <wya...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Have to say whatever they're doing with the paint is right. Next Riv I >>> get will be 50% because I want a frame with that mermaid green. >>> >>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 5:29:55 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> Wait, the Platys are coming in silver soon? Crap, I guess good thing I >>>> just got my Charlie back or I'd be dropping a bunch of money for that. >>>> >>>> I'm late to the conversation, but my read is that Grant & co spend a >>>> lot more time on color selection than is business-smart to do so, because >>>> they want it to be exactly right - so when they get one that passes a >>>> vote, >>>> they hang onto it. As for my opinion about it, I like how they do it >>>> because if you love a certain color, you just have to be patient for it to >>>> come to your preferred model - or, conversely, if you like a model but not >>>> the available colors, you'll hopefully be accommodated on the next batch. >>>> I do think that colors should be retired every few years for new ones >>>> though! >>>> >>>> On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 12:56:19 UTC-7 Ryan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, Joe...you have a great color scheme there...which is a good thing >>>>> because we see a lot of it...and that's totally OK. I like looking at it😊 >>>>> >>>>> I really like the harvest gold; got it in 2001 when it was fairly >>>>> unusual, but offered as a custom color. Looks different depending on >>>>> light(sunlight vs cloud). I agree with Laing that a butter yellow would >>>>> be >>>>> great, especially if it had panels and headtube in a root beer or coffee >>>>> color. The standard cream would get lost because there's not enough >>>>> contrast. I absolutely do not need another custom but if I were in the >>>>> market and Riv still offered customs, I think that I could go for that. >>>>> >>>>> I do like Leah's Raspberry and that mermaid color is quite attractive >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:48:21 AM UTC-5 Miles T wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I’m a sucker for metallic colors… it’s like you get 2 for 1. A >>>>>> metallic colored bike looks totally different in overcast weather vs a >>>>>> sunny day. But the solid colors are great too. That dark green on the >>>>>> Clem >>>>>> “H” models a while back is one of my favorite colors on any riv. At this >>>>>> point, they have a wide selection of colors and I like seeing them pop >>>>>> up >>>>>> on different models over time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I love that scheme on your custom, Joe. Especially that cream outline >>>>>> on the red accents. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 11:39:47 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll throw down for the gloss non-metallics here cuz it's what I >>>>>>> chose for my custom. I like it!* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *I like metallics, too. I'm easy 😬 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Screenshot_20230423_083601.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 7:48:02 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Crust Bombora owner here, so I have no reservations whatsoever >>>>>>>> about pink / lilac / weird colored bikes. The more the better! >>>>>>>> Personally, I agree with Leah in that I find the Rivendell colors >>>>>>>> look best when they're sparklin'. The only non-metallic Riv color I've >>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>> been attracted to is that mustard color of the Clem / Appaloosa. I'd >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> to see them move away from the non-metallic oranges and blues... and >>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>> love to see more of the weird gold, mustard-y tones and maybe more >>>>>>>> variations on silver. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would buy a pink step through if they came out with one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 9:22:00 PM UTC-4 George Schick >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am fortunate to own a Rambouillet in the first paint edition - >>>>>>>>>> the sparkling metallic orange. I've had many complements on it not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> from other cyclists, but also from random on-lookers, as well. Some >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> these have even said that they'd love to see a vintage vehicle of >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> choice repainted with the Nova Orange base coat and the Spanish Gold >>>>>>>>>> clear >>>>>>>>>> coat. It's hard to beat. >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 3:39:48 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello friends — I've noticed that over the past few years >>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell have been using some of the same paint colors on many >>>>>>>>>>> frames >>>>>>>>>>> through several production runs. If there's been a discussion of >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> practice, I've missed it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't quite put my finger on it but something about the same >>>>>>>>>>> paint appearing on frames over and over leaves me scratching my >>>>>>>>>>> head. >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps there's a missed opportunity to pin a color to a model or >>>>>>>>>>> to cycle >>>>>>>>>>> in new colors with new batches of frames? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What do other members think? Do you appreciate the same colors >>>>>>>>>>> appearing on different frames? Do you wish there was a wider >>>>>>>>>>> variety of >>>>>>>>>>> colors? Does it matter at all? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some of these colors I like quite a lot, others I appreciate. >>>>>>>>>>> There isn't one that I dislike. The Lime Olive is always striking >>>>>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>>>>> appears on a new frame, love it on the Hillbornes and Clems. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The harvest gold, wow, looks killer on those Susies. Blew my >>>>>>>>>>> mind on the Homers because they've always been a blue bike. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I do miss the mustard from the older Appaloosas and the dark >>>>>>>>>>> bronze that appeared on some Clems. These two colors paired with >>>>>>>>>>> some of >>>>>>>>>>> the newer colors currently in use demonstrate, I think, that Riv >>>>>>>>>>> has some >>>>>>>>>>> of the best paint colors in the biz. Really lovely stuff. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a far-from-complete list more or less off the top of my >>>>>>>>>>> head of where current production colors have appeared: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Lime-olive* >>>>>>>>>>> Platypus >>>>>>>>>>> Susie >>>>>>>>>>> Hillborne >>>>>>>>>>> Clem >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Mermaid* >>>>>>>>>>> Appaloosa >>>>>>>>>>> Platypus >>>>>>>>>>> Roadini >>>>>>>>>>> Gus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Harvest/Dark Gold* >>>>>>>>>>> Hillborne >>>>>>>>>>> Homer >>>>>>>>>>> Susie >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Ana Purple* >>>>>>>>>>> Rosco Plat >>>>>>>>>>> Appaloosa (next batch in 2023?) >>>>>>>>>>> Road Uno or Gallop? (I can't remember but thought the purple was >>>>>>>>>>> slated for one of these frames) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *RBW Orange* >>>>>>>>>>> Appaloosa >>>>>>>>>>> Roadini >>>>>>>>>>> Gus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *RBW Blue* >>>>>>>>>>> Too many to list? >>>>>>>>>>> Appaloosa >>>>>>>>>>> Clem >>>>>>>>>>> Hillborne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2122a66f-5026-4398-adb3-33555bc696ebn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2122a66f-5026-4398-adb3-33555bc696ebn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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