Hi Joe,

If you contact Greg Parker, he can get you a frame; the Sportifs are classy
and classic-looking. While they are not designed for this w-i-d-e tire
moment, they sure look like wonderful road bike frames that will
accommodate tires suitable for randonneuring.  It'd be great to see them
built up and as bare frames on the Heron web pages!

Tom

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:29 PM Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Do you know if this is a Ted Durant or Todd Kuzma Heron? The site you
> linked to discusses a Sportif model supposedly showing up in 2017 (third
> owner of the Heron company) but I'm not clear if they ever got going.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-7 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> As I'm sure everyone knows, the Heron geo information is still available,
>> though not standover figures: http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html.
>>  The geometry for the Heron Randonneur--very few of them made, as you say,
>> Mike--is not so different from the Touring or Road models in terms of
>> rake.  If this one were a 59 or 61 . . . !
>>
>> Greg Parker has kindly shared with me that the Sportif has more of a
>> lower-mid trail configuration, with standard diameter tubing, and a level
>> TT.
>>
>> Tom in Miami (temporarily in Colorado)
>>
>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6 mike goldman wrote:
>>
>>> joel,
>>>
>>> they didnt make herons very long and only a handful of the Randos so i
>>> dont think or know if geometry changed. you can email my buddy through
>>> craigslist for the standover
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
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