Tom, 

Do you know if this is a Ted Durant or Todd Kuzma Heron? The site you 
linked to discusses a Sportif model supposedly showing up in 2017 (third 
owner of the Heron company) but I'm not clear if they ever got going. 

Joe Bernard 

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-7 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> As I'm sure everyone knows, the Heron geo information is still available, 
> though not standover figures: http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html.  
>  The geometry for the Heron Randonneur--very few of them made, as you say, 
> Mike--is not so different from the Touring or Road models in terms of 
> rake.  If this one were a 59 or 61 . . . !
>
> Greg Parker has kindly shared with me that the Sportif has more of a 
> lower-mid trail configuration, with standard diameter tubing, and a level 
> TT.
>
> Tom in Miami (temporarily in Colorado)
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6 mike goldman wrote:
>
>> joel, 
>>
>> they didnt make herons very long and only a handful of the Randos so i 
>> dont think or know if geometry changed. you can email my buddy through 
>> craigslist for the standover 
>>
>> mike 
>>
>

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