I have a 61cm roadeo and have ridden several other rivs and I love the way the roadeo rides. It's the perfect bike in almost every way. It's the most responsive bike I've ever owned. It's quick without being twitchy. Only problem is it's slightly too small, so I've been considering different options (besides the obvious one of just getting a size bigger from riv), including a roadini. Along the way, I've been obsessed with comparing bikes on bike insight. Of note, and relevant to this discussion is that I compared a 61cm Roadini with a 66cm Gunnar Grand Tour frame, and lo and behold, it's has almost the exact same geometry (see attached pic)!! Not sure what the differences in the tubing are, but I'd bet the Gunnar touring frame has the same or even lighter tubing. Thankful for this post and discussion, everyone. Perhaps the roadini is not the right choice to upsize my roadeo.
Ryan [image: GunnarRoadiniComparison.jpg] On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:45 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: > Having owned a Roadini, I would go a step further and say it's basically > an old school touring bike. Long, relaxed, kind of overbuilt. I've never > ridden one, but I'd guess a Specialized Expedition or Miyata 1000 would > feel pretty similar. By contrast, I've had a string of vintage Trek sport > touring bikes, and they felt a bit snappier than the Roadini. > > Eric > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:13 PM Andrew Turner <andyree...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> cjus...@gmail.com, sorry I don't know your name, but while staring at >> the finished build as one does, one of my first thoughts was, this looks a >> LOT like a Casseroll! I've never ridden one but am delighted that someone >> else made that connection. I would 100% agree with that description for the >> Roadini: "A versatile (light) touring machine with roadie influences." >> >> I also should've clarified that the 2022 Roadini model is the one I have >> a harder time calling a road bike. To me it's a new-age sport tourer. Lot's >> of bags don't even need brazeons or racks these days and I think the >> Roadini would carry them in stride. >> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:25 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> I think of the Roadini as a Rivendell road bike, as in "this is how Riv >>> distills Rivness into a TIG-welded caliper-brake frame designed to be a >>> little shorter than other Rivs, and will probably use dropbsrs and >>> skinny-ish tires." It's not a "road bike" as the current market understands >>> that term. >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:24:41 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Patrick, >>>> >>>> You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my experience >>>> with the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is ironic >>>> because >>>> I like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was conjured up while >>>> riding >>>> the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground and tried a >>>> handicap >>>> swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, hey this is pretty >>>> cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like to feel...I'm >>>> gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This feels >>>> insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't think my >>>> experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford 1200, >>>> they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both called road >>>> bikes... >>>> >>>> Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would >>>> MUCH prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of >>>> selling the Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But >>>> where I'm at right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that >>>> feels lively and a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a prayer >>>> to the pinch flat gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I >>>> were >>>> a sleep-deprived rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country >>>> road, >>>> the Roadini and I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't me >>>> right now. >>>> >>>> This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe >>>> Rivendell shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's definitely >>>> THEIR version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo >>>> fit into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are >>>> beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve >>>> their own as well. Food for thought. >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's frame and fork and headset, folks. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy >>>>>> hs!!] with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with >>>>>> tires >>>>>> and gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>> >>>>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70c8a50a-714b-48e1-8b3a-dab7a8e73980n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70c8a50a-714b-48e1-8b3a-dab7a8e73980n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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