That is pretty funny! I assume I am in the rabbit hole alone when I make some of these connections. Good on you for connecting as the Casseroll has been out of prod for 7 years or so IIRC. I was comparing the 49cm 2010 Mustard Casseroll (my favorite version and just found NOS after 12 years) Geo with this version of the 50cm Roadini:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-500-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416 That is the link currently posted on Riv but I suspect based on some of the tire info that it is an earlier iteration, so the 2022 model may be diverging from that link and the 15 year old Casseroll design to something just a little further from a road bike in its latest version. On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:13:18 PM UTC-6 andyree...@gmail.com wrote: cjus...@gmail.com, sorry I don't know your name, but while staring at the finished build as one does, one of my first thoughts was, this looks a LOT like a Casseroll! I've never ridden one but am delighted that someone else made that connection. I would 100% agree with that description for the Roadini: "A versatile (light) touring machine with roadie influences." I also should've clarified that the 2022 Roadini model is the one I have a harder time calling a road bike. To me it's a new-age sport tourer. Lot's of bags don't even need brazeons or racks these days and I think the Roadini would carry them in stride. On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:25 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: I think of the Roadini as a Rivendell road bike, as in "this is how Riv distills Rivness into a TIG-welded caliper-brake frame designed to be a little shorter than other Rivs, and will probably use dropbsrs and skinny-ish tires." It's not a "road bike" as the current market understands that term. Joe Bernard On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:24:41 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my experience with the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is ironic because I like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was conjured up while riding the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground and tried a handicap swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, hey this is pretty cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like to feel...I'm gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This feels insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't think my experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford 1200, they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both called road bikes... Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would MUCH prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of selling the Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But where I'm at right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that feels lively and a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a prayer to the pinch flat gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I were a sleep-deprived rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country road, the Roadini and I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't me right now. This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe Rivendell shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's definitely THEIR version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo fit into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve their own as well. Food for thought. Andrew On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: That's frame and fork and headset, folks. On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy hs!!] with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with tires and gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7b4ba365-f487-4fcc-a78b-fd6609181444n%40googlegroups.com.