On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of 
> Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm 
> cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been 
> researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits 
> other than pedal clearance.
>
>
Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours up for the 
first time and assuming you'll want more clearance?  (Based perhaps on 
experience with other rivendell models.)  My single conplaint about my 
Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high.  Its not at all like my Clem 
or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other companies, that are all 
much lower..  I've probably  learned to adjust my pedaling technique from 
previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires probably have something to do 
with it too but, in case you haven't done so, you should try it with 
normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. (*mine are 175)

On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go.  Grant orginally said that 
it might only be the first batch that was fillet brazed, but didn't suggest 
that the models would just "disappear."  Seems a shame to throw in the 
towel and not keep them going in some form, even if they're just tigged.  
That's how the Charlie Gallop - with similar top tube curve -  will be 
built, right?  With the Clem(entine) moving further away from its original 
mountain/hill bike concept, and with the Hunquapillar long gone, this just 
feels like a slot that needs filled to me.
 

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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 
> more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another 
> run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm 
> going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! 
>
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over 
>> fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s 
>> sorta between the Susie & Gus. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that 
>>> the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just 
>>> arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at 
>>> owning a beautiful ATB frameset.
>>
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