Your description of your old Pro reminds me a bit of my new Berthoud.
The leather is indeed thick and stiff, and it seems like it'll take
years and miles to break it in nicely.  It is however not as wide as
the B-17 as well.

On May 16, 6:43 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On May 16, 2010, at 6:10 PM, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> > Several of my B-17's are showing significant wear, turning into
> > hatchets.  What does the list recommend for replacements, something
> > substantially similar that doesn't wear out so fast for us Clydes? I
> > am about to try the An-atomicas, just curious if there are other  
> > clyde-
> > worthy saddles.
>
> Wow.  My Brooks Pro on my Riv was purchased in 1976 or 1977 and has  
> not yet turned into an @55 hatchet.  I have weighed around 200 lbs  
> throughout that time (up to 250 about 20 years ago, but let's face  
> it, I obviously wasn't riding much then...).
>
> But in those days the Pro's leather was twice as thick as the B.17  
> and more carefully chosen.  It looks to me like the current Pros and  
> B.17 are cut from the same leather and it is treated differently than  
> the old days.  My Pro was hard as oak for years and took about 3  
> years to fully break in.  Now it's just the most comfortable saddle I  
> have ever ridden.  The leather is about 1/4" thick.  I've got one  
> other Pro from that era and it, too, is very comfortable.  My newer  
> Pros aren't as good- the leather is too soft and stretches too much.  
> I have a titanium Swift which has really hard leather like the old  
> ones but the shape is different and very uncomfortable for me.
>
> So I am getting around to suggesting looking for an old, possibly  
> NOS, Brooks saddle- probably a Pro unless it's just too narrow.
>
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