Well, I guess I'm going to bouncing around on my Susie... Joking.. I'll buy a Jim Stem once they become available in the near future...
Daniel M Tallahassee, FL On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:11:39 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Here are some relative truths: > > 1. 1-1/8" quill stems are stiffer than 1" quill stems > 2. steel quill stems are stiffer than aluminum quill stems > 3. Stems with a shorter extension are stiffer than similar stems with a > longer extension > 4. straight handlebars are stiffer than swept back handlebars > 5. among swept back bars, bars with less sweep back are stiffer than bars > with more sweep back > 6. 31.8mm handlebars are stiffer than 25.4mm handlebars > 7. steel handlebars are stiffer than aluminum handlebars > 8. handlebars fitted to the right sized stem are stiffer than handlebars > shimmed into the next size larger > 9. bullmoose is stiffer than separate handlebar and stem setups. > > As far as I understand it, Daniel's handlebar setup is employing the > "flexier" choice in all 9 of the above. So there's a lot of ways to > improve things. The most "night and day" experience I've had on this front > was on Doug's Clem. Doug hated the flex. It was a technomic stem and > aluminum boscos. I set him up with a bullmoose Choco, and he was instantly > over the moon about it. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 8:39:07 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> From what I remember reading, the Billie is recommended to use with a >> faceplate stem. The Technomic has a lot of flex. I’m running the Jim on >> mine with Bosco bars and the flex is not bad, just enough to take the sting >> out of things. Definitely recommend trying a cheap one and getting >> something nicer when they show up, hopefully soon… >> >> I’m waiting for a 135 Faceplater to replace my 100 Jim. And also maybe >> waiting for the Billie to be able to stretch out more. Hopefully parts >> become more available again one day! >> >> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 7:30:52 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote: >> >>> Of course, the Jim stem is sold out. Anyone have a 120mm Jim Stem for >>> sale? I might get a cheapo off Ebay and see if that works then buyer a >>> nicer one later. I will do the headset test as well. I've had an >>> experienced mechanic set-up the headset so I'm pretty confident that it is >>> not the problem. >>> >>> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:15:26 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>>> Daniel wrote: "I was thinking the Jim stem with the double bolt and >>>> uprise angle might solve the problem. Thoughts?" >>>> >>>> I would think it would make a big improvement. The Billie bars are >>>> still wide bars with a fair amount of flex but moving to a stem like that >>>> made a big difference for me when I did it. I agree the amount of flex >>>> with >>>> my original Billie/Nitto tech setup was excessive. >>>> >>>> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:10:22 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> While not as aesthetically pleasing, you could try a threadless to >>>>> quill stem adapter and see if running a threadless stem with a wider >>>>> clamping area will fix your issue. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:30 AM James Valiensi <jpval...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> If the handlebar clamp on the stem is too loose the bars will slip >>>>>> and rotate in it. The bolt needs to be really tight. >>>>>> You can tell if the headset is loose with this method: >>>>>> 1. stand in front of the bike >>>>>> 2. wrap one o your hands around the top nut, stem and top of the head >>>>>> tube >>>>>> 3. hold the front brake lever realy hard with the other hand >>>>>> 4. push the bike back and forth a bit >>>>>> 5. if the headset is loose you will feel the differ parts moving >>>>>> under the hand that is wrapped around the headset >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the longer bars are flexible. I have a Losco and it is so >>>>>> flexible that I quit using it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2022, at 4:51 AM, Daniel MacPherson <macphe...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m having issues with my handlebar set-up. I’m running Nitto >>>>>> Technomic stem with Billie bars. The Billie bars are 25.4. The Nitto >>>>>> stem >>>>>> is 26.0. I’m using a problem solvers shim to fit the bars properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I get a lot of flex in the Billie bars when I apply any >>>>>> weight to the bars. I’ve applied a lot of torque to the nut on the stem >>>>>> and >>>>>> it helps a bit but doesn’t solve the issue. I’m worried it might be the >>>>>> headset; however the headset appears tight and smooth. Have you guys >>>>>> experienced similar issues? Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel MacPherson >>>>>> >>>>>> Tallahassee Florida >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:06:16 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good to know Daniel! I have the stock DXR pads on for now. Only have >>>>>>> 100 miles or so and I still have no grind or squeal. Something I have >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> annoyed with since going to disc brakes 15 or so years back. >>>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:44:03 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I fixed the squealing on my Susie by toeing in the Kool Stop pads >>>>>>>> just now. It's worth the try if you are getting annoyed by the >>>>>>>> constant >>>>>>>> screech. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel M >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:07:10 AM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't >>>>>>>>> my first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> asked about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there >>>>>>>>> will prob >>>>>>>>> be a free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything >>>>>>>>> sorted >>>>>>>>> out. I have at least 2 sets to get rid of now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had >>>>>>>>> any problems with them squealing before. There must be something >>>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>>> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm running Paul Motolites and the Kool Stop mountain pads, in >>>>>>>>>> salmon, for my Gus. No issues for fit or squealing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:30:18 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have found that the thin line salmons, when working, are great >>>>>>>>>>> pads but by far the fussiest to setup. Getting them to be quiet can >>>>>>>>>>> require >>>>>>>>>>> such ludicrous amounts of toe-in that the pad wont last more than >>>>>>>>>>> 1000 >>>>>>>>>>> miles. One trick that has worked previously worked is cleaning the >>>>>>>>>>> pads >>>>>>>>>>> themselves with isopropyl and then with hot detergent water. Not >>>>>>>>>>> one or the >>>>>>>>>>> other. Both, in that order. >>>>>>>>>>> I am trying the grey cheapy pads that riv started selling with >>>>>>>>>>> Neo-retros on my Susie and the setup was painless, and the braking >>>>>>>>>>> is far >>>>>>>>>>> improved to my previous experience with Neo-retros. >>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes everything just works, sometimes It doesn't, and if I >>>>>>>>>>> could tell which was which in advance I'd never learn anything. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/16f6fbec-b780-4b80-9376-0598719343d9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/16f6fbec-b780-4b80-9376-0598719343d9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DCDADA1A-CE0B-41F2-97EE-894D442664C8%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DCDADA1A-CE0B-41F2-97EE-894D442664C8%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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