Daniel wrote: "I was thinking the Jim stem with the double bolt and uprise 
angle might solve the problem. Thoughts?"

I would think it would make a big improvement. The Billie bars are still 
wide bars with a fair amount of flex but moving to a stem like that made a 
big difference for me when I did it. I agree the amount of flex with my 
original Billie/Nitto tech setup was excessive.

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:10:22 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> While not as aesthetically pleasing, you could try a threadless to quill 
> stem adapter and see if running a threadless stem with a wider clamping 
> area will fix your issue.
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:30 AM James Valiensi <jpval...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> If the handlebar clamp on the stem is too loose the bars will slip and 
>> rotate in it. The bolt needs to be really tight.
>> You can tell if the headset is loose with this method:
>> 1. stand in front of the bike
>> 2. wrap one o your hands around the top nut, stem and top of the head tube
>> 3. hold the front brake lever realy hard with the other hand
>> 4. push the bike back and forth a bit
>> 5. if the headset is loose you will feel the differ parts moving under 
>> the hand that is wrapped around the headset
>>
>> Some of the longer bars are flexible. I have a Losco and it is so 
>> flexible that I quit using it.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2022, at 4:51 AM, Daniel MacPherson <macphe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I’m having issues with my handlebar set-up. I’m running Nitto Technomic 
>> stem with Billie bars. The Billie bars are 25.4. The Nitto stem is 26.0. 
>> I’m using a problem solvers shim to fit the bars properly.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I get a lot of flex in the Billie bars when I apply any weight to 
>> the bars. I’ve applied a lot of torque to the nut on the stem and it helps 
>> a bit but doesn’t solve the issue. I’m worried it might be the headset; 
>> however the headset appears tight and smooth. Have you guys experienced 
>> similar issues? Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Daniel MacPherson
>>
>> Tallahassee Florida
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:06:16 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know Daniel! I have the stock DXR pads on for now. Only have 100 
>>> miles or so and I still have no grind or squeal. Something I have been 
>>> annoyed with since going to disc brakes 15 or so years back. 
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:44:03 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I fixed the squealing on my Susie by toeing in the Kool Stop pads just 
>>>> now.  It's worth the try if you are getting annoyed by the constant 
>>>> screech. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, 
>>>>
>>>> Daniel M
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:07:10 AM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't my 
>>>>> first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time I 
>>>>> asked 
>>>>> about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there will prob be 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything sorted out. 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> have at least 2 sets to get rid of now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had any 
>>>>> problems with them squealing before. There must be something about the 
>>>>> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm running Paul Motolites and the Kool Stop mountain pads, in 
>>>>>> salmon, for my Gus.  No issues for fit or squealing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:30:18 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have found that the thin line salmons, when working, are great 
>>>>>>> pads but by far the fussiest to setup. Getting them to be quiet can 
>>>>>>> require 
>>>>>>> such ludicrous amounts of toe-in that the pad wont last more than 1000 
>>>>>>> miles. One trick that has worked previously worked is cleaning the pads 
>>>>>>> themselves with isopropyl and then with hot detergent water. Not one or 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> other. Both, in that order.
>>>>>>> I am trying the grey cheapy pads that riv started selling with 
>>>>>>> Neo-retros on my Susie and the setup was painless, and the braking is 
>>>>>>> far 
>>>>>>> improved to my previous experience with Neo-retros.
>>>>>>> Sometimes everything just works, sometimes It doesn't, and if I 
>>>>>>> could tell which was which in advance I'd never learn anything.
>>>>>>>
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