Hey John, I'm surprised no one's talked about choco bars yet. Personally I have yet to try them, but I think they look great. Riv describes them as being good for roadish bikes as an alternative to drop bars. Bikesnobnyc has them on his homer.
Paul brakes are incredible. I haven't used the dia compe canti's, but the paul's ease of setup and adjustibility allow you to dial in such a perfect brake feel in my experience. Painfully expensive but they'll last forever! stephen On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-4 larson....@gmail.com wrote: > [image: 3CF862D8-6758-4A8F-92A3-23A113CC1071.jpeg] > > On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:32:03 AM UTC-5 larson....@gmail.com wrote: > >> I have always been more of a drop bar guy, but after 500 miles on Billie >> bars I am starting to change my thinking. I do not like a too upright >> position - the front curves, which I use a lot, are about saddle level. The >> ends are angled slightly down which I like for descending or on the trail. >> The front curves feel similar to riding on the hoods of a drop bar. I keep >> thinking that as my rides get longer I will wish for drop bars, but I have >> not found that to be the case. I feel like by flexing my elbows I can get a >> low enough position for a headwind, though obviously not as low as drops. >> Yesterday I rode 40+ miles in complete comfort with no hand, neck or >> shoulder (I’m rehabbing a rotator cuff injury)pain, and feel that 50-60 >> miles would be no problem. These days I do not ride longer than that very >> often. The Joe Appaloosa with Billie bars is making me rethink my ideas on >> comfort. >> >> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:52:54 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote: >> >>> I will definitely second being less comfortable when I am too upright. I >>> still haven't found a bar with back sweep and rise (albatross, boscos, >>> etc.) that I feel comfortable on. My bikes are all pretty much drops or >>> flat bars (wavies, bullmoose, Jones). I can only descend hills at any sort >>> of speed on drop bars. My favorite drops are Randonneur Bars (which Riv >>> does not sell) - the bars sweep up at the outside so that the ramps are >>> above the stem. I have been riding drops for 52 years since that first >>> Varsity Sport, the Super Sport a year later introduced me to Randonneur >>> bars (and Chrome-Moly frames and alloy rims and Brooks saddles). The top of >>> my bars are above the Saddle these days, but the drops are still below the >>> saddle. >>> >>> Laing >>> Delray Beach FL >>> >>> >>> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:03:47 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> I'm surely not a "typical" Riv rider in that I grew up and am still >>>> most comfortable/relaxed with a forward leaning position. The more upright >>>> I go the more unstable I feel on the bike, exactly the opposite of what's >>>> being touted. Don't believe anything/everything you read, *even this*, >>>> everything you need to know you already know within yourself. I wouldn't >>>> make a very good teacher as that'd be about all I'd say to the >>>> "students"..... that and "why ask me that which you already know and are >>>> ?" >>>> Why ?.... so that in asking and answering we can laugh/revel in the >>>> hilarity of playing *question and answer *! Self Revelation ... >>>> >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6adead3f-a03a-4c80-a131-eeec9dc01e9cn%40googlegroups.com.