Whoops.  It looks like the top of my post got bungled.  Here is what
it should look like:

On May 5, 3:53 pm, Grant Petersen <gr...@rivbike.com> wrote:
> > It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells
> > frames are not designed for drop bars.  With the long top tubes you
> > need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach.
>
> UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso.
>
> The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people
> come and go and land late and may skip over or miss,

Not here.  I've read that article several times in the past.

>
> Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes.
>

Shallow seat tube angles may somewhat reduce the effective top tube
length--but they certainly don't "neutralize" the long top tubes found
on Rivendell bikes.  For every one degree shallower(=smaller
numerically) the seat tube angle is on a Rivendell frame compared to
someone's current bike, the Rivendell frame will reduce the effective
top tube length by approximately 1 cm.   For instance, if someone has
a road bike that has a 73 degree seat tube angle, a Rivendell frame
with a 72 degree seat tube angle will reduce the effective top tube
length by 1 cm.

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