Like Joe B, I dont know about hamstrings vs quads, but is *seems like *you are* too stretched out* on the 54.5cm AHH-MIT, mainly since you are using a very short stem length and a very short reach bar.
Also, a 54.5 AHH-MIT has equal STA and HTA, STA=71.5°. HTA=71.5° so the bars are coming back to compensate for the slacker HTA (and also to give enough Front Center to prevent TCO). Therefore, the slack STA is not your problem, the long TT is probably contributing to your being stretched out. Lets assume you are too stretched out. Your options are: 1 Get a seatpost with less setback, see below 2 Push the saddle all the ways to the BACK of the saddle rails to move the saddle forward. This can give you 2 to 4 cm or more depending on the saddle used (a B17 is at the low end of the range, 2.4cm. 3. Move the bars UP to either at saddle height or above it. This is a small effect and based on the 71.5° HTA, the distance you move BACK (x) is either 0.335 x y, where y = the VERTCAL distance the bars are raised, y is in CM and x is in CM 0.317 x Z, where z = the DISTANCE ALONG THE STEM QUILL the bars are raised, z is in CM and x is in CM If you move the bars UP 2cm the bars will come back 0.67cm or 6.7mm, not a lot If you are *too cramped*, then just increase the stem length or get a longer reach bar like a Noddle. RBW gives the following seatpost setbacks (in mm) on their SEATPOST tab Nitto Lugged: 40 IRD Wayback 10 to 50 Paul 26 Nitto S83 (2bolt) 20 Nitto S65 (1bolt) 18 Assuming the RBW values are consistent (reflecting the relative setbacks of the 4 posts), then replacing the Nitto Lugged post (40mm) with a S83 or S65 (20mm either) will reduce your REACH to the bars by 2.0 cm. A IRD Wayback will reduce it by 3.0cm at the minimum setback setting. A zero setback post will give you 4.0cm closer to the bars This saddle movement may be enough. Seatpost are not cheap to experiment with I think you are 2 to 4 cm too stretched out from what you said. We can calculate the center of saddle to center of stem clamp or end of bars for the 54.5 AAH-MIT and compare it to a bike you have and which you are comfortable, essentially transferring the fit to the 54.5 AHH-MIT. For example, Assuming your Saddle Height (SH) is 76cm (PBH-10), then a 54.5cm AHH_MIT has 57.4 cm between the seatpost center at 76cm SH (no saddle) & the center of the stem quill bolt (bars LEVEL with seatpost at SH), from the 71.5° frame angles, Let me know if you want to try this. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 11:24:22 PM UTC-5 atreya...@gmail.com wrote: > Group , need your thoughts on drop bar fit . I recently bought homer > Hilsen ( most recent batch ) . I have short torso but long legs and arms . > My height is 5’8.5 ish and pbh is 86.5. I have homer in 54.5 , which has tt > of 57.5. I am running a short stem 50mm and nitto m151(75 mm reach) . I am > also using nitto lugged seat post , which I understand has a lot of set > back.The reach seems to be working fine , however I do find my hamstrings > are getting taxed way more than I like compared to my quads especially on > climbs in the saddle . My understanding is that homer has a slack seat tube > angle of 71.5. Will running a zero set back seatpost help ? Has anybody run > zero setback posts on rivs. I understand that general recommendation is to > have more set back . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/29aeeb25-91f7-4dfc-8af4-364e3ce861f4n%40googlegroups.com.