Thank you. 

I suppose I should include where this bike would fit in my lineup: For 
riding with kids, I have my ClemXtracycle For commuting, knocking around 
town I have a single speed with a basket rack. I also have a very lean 
single speed with higher gearing and jack browns, which essentially covers 
the same type of riding my Roadini does. So I guess the hole in my lineup 
is between the commuter and the Appaloosa. It's pretty flat around here but 
it can be windy. The Roadini is used exclusively for solo rides in the rare 
event I can escape my family. I have tried to justify keeping the Roadini 
*and* getting a Homer but I'm trying to be responsible (<-- did I spell 
that correctly?) for once. They would overlap too much and I could grab 
either one.

Shoji - I have tried narrower tires, which are I'm sure what this bike was 
designed for. The roads around here are pretty chopped up and the ride is 
markedly nicer with the fatties on there. I have Paul centerpulls, which I 
need to keep the clearances, and they don't play well with front bags (I'm 
sure there's some kind of workaround).

Bones

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Good morning,
> I don't have any personal experience with Sams or Homers, but going of 
> what you are describing and what Riv says, here's my take...
>
> You're right in thinking that Homer will be between Sam and Roadini, but I 
> think it's almost identical outside of color, brake type, and according to 
> Rivendell, Sam has slightly stouter tubing. I can't imagine that slightly 
> lighter tubing on a very similarly sized and designed frame is going to 
> yield a significantly different ride/feel. But I'd love to hear from 
> someone with lots of saddle time in both frames to see what they think.
>
> I have an Atlantis and I lust for Sam as a lighter, zippier option for 
> rides where I want to go for hours on roads and light gravel/dirt...so I am 
> totally with you on wanting to find something different enough from my 
> current bike, but I don't think the Roadini would be quite stout enough to 
> be an all-road solution. 
>
> Ben in Omaha 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 9:38:52 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> I know these comparisons have come up frequently, but here is my 
>> particular situation:
>>
>> I had a 62 Hillborne. It felt too similar to my Appaloosa, so I got a 61 
>> Roadini. I've been riding that for a year and a half and I love it. It 
>> serves the purpose the Hillborne was meant to serve (the Hillborne always 
>> felt a bit too bulky for my intended purpose... which is primarily riding 
>> on roads with light loads). 
>>
>> Sometimes I feel like I overshot with the Roadini though, and the Homer 
>> would be the best choice. I sometimes wish I could put fenders on it, 
>> without having to go with a smaller tire (currently running Barlows on 
>> Quills --> ~41mm). I sometimes wish I could add a small front rack without 
>> using P-clamps.
>>
>> Being a tall and slender fella, pretty much every Rivendell is overbuilt 
>> for me for any of their stated purposes. What I am getting at is would I be 
>> losing anything if I swapped the Roadini for a Homer? Clearly I would gain 
>> in functionality. I am indifferent with respect to the chainstay lengths. I 
>> just want to be sure that the bike would have the same lighter feel that I 
>> experience with the Roadini.
>>
>> Any insight is much appreciated!
>>
>> Bones
>>
>

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