I’ve worn the Musa shorts for several years.  I dislike the elastic belt
and the seams on the rear pockets did not hold for long….other than than,
great durable shorts for cycling.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 3:45 PM Peter Adler <divisi....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Although a pair of pants (or maybe knickers) sound appealing, I don't
> expect to buy the new ones.
>
> I own an earlier generation of the grey/blue pants, with Velcro leg
> straps. The material is fine, for what it is. My two primary beefs are the
> elastic belt and the silly-low rise, which combine to produce visible
> buttcrack while riding, or at least visible underpants. It's meant that I
> hardly ever wear them on a bike at all, as I do not wish to impose that
> scenery on riders behind me.
>
> As I recall, the rise is low by design, because Grant doesn't like loose
> fabric on his butt. I do, especially if it means that the waistband stays
> covered by my shirt/jersey/sweater/jacket. Perhaps it's the difference
> between riding drop bars and uprights, which I'm not going to do
>
> As with other Rivendell products, Grant designs products that work for
> Grant. If what works for Grant doesn't work for you, you're going to have
> to go elsewhere.
>
> Peter Adler
>  who gets exposed buttcrack with MUSA pants+Nitto Technomic+Noodles, so
> either Grant's beta-testing is not comprehensive or he doesn't care about
> buttcrack exposure
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:15:02 AM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> I agree with Frank about the belt. I put a non elastic web belt in both
>> of my pairs of shorts.
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:56 AM Frank Brose <fkb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Had a pair on yesterday. I think I have 4 or 5 pairs and  the only
>>> complaint I have would be the belt. If they had a web belt they would be
>>> the best shorts I've ever owned. Probably still are. I'll buy more.
>>
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