Hi everyone,

I'm glad I recently found this group, I am hoping you can help me out!

I am planning on ordering a Rivendell frameset in the near future (whenever 
they are in stock, I am patient). I am just having a hard time deciding 
what might be right for me between the Sam Hillborne and the Atlantis, 
mainly on the geometry.

I would be using the bike for a half-hour commute on road / bike paths a 
couple of times a week with panniers, and also for weekend rides of ~1-2 
hours mostly on gravel roads. I want to build it up with drop bars and 
something around ~45mm tyres.

My PBH is 91cm and my previous drop bar bikes have had a ~60cm top tube. I 
am tall enough that I have never owned a road bike that is capable of 
getting the bars level with the saddle, even with a riser stem! My hope for 
a Rivendell is to set it up with drop bars that can actually be level with 
the saddle, and to have a bike that will be with me for life.

I have always LOVED the look of the Atlantis, especially with the extra 
rainbow top tube. The colour and the head badge are beautiful. For this 
reason alone it would be my first choice, however… my concern is that in my 
size (59 cm) the top tube length is 64cm which seems very long, like it 
would be too long for drop bars. I get the feeling that maybe the “new” 
Atlantis is more optimised for upright bars? Does anyone have recent 
experience with drops on the Atlantis?

Sam Hillborne is a beautiful looking frame too (in orange). The geometry 
seems to be more “standard” and it would fit my needs nicely. However I’m a 
little confused on size, the geometry charts on the Riv website lead me to 
believe there is a 58cm which would be my size, or possibly a 62cm which is 
the next size up. The text on the Sam Hillborne page suggests there is a 
60cm model as the biggest - have they recently updated the sizing and 
geometry? 

I think I really want the Atlantis but am hoping for reassurance on the 
fit. Any light you can shed on this would be great!
Thanks
Daniel 

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