I use the WTB Pure on many of my bikes and it is my go-to non-leather saddle. I love the B17 and the Pure is just as comfortable for me but offers more setback and I can move around on it more than on a B17.

I actually prefer the older model that was called the Pure V. It feels better to me even though they look to be basically the same as the new model. I have a few Pure V's squirreled away for future use.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Best saddle for very upright posture?

Jesse, I think you want a leather saddle, but have you considered a synthetic mountain bike saddle like the WTB Pure? It has a flat area, like the B-17, and wouldn't look out of place on a Surly. 

I replaced a B-17 Flyer on a on old Trek 950 with the WTB, because of limited setback. I don't sit bolt upright on that bike, but I'm using Albatross bars that are about even, maybe a bit higher than saddle level, so I'm fairly upright. It's not a toodler, but I am comfortable.

FWIW, I have a C-17 on a drop bar bike as it feels a little "racier" to me than a B-17 standard. Besides shape, I think it has less give than a leather saddle. I wouldn't recommend it for a "very upright" position. Maybe it's just sample variation, but my Flyer and Standard do not feel like the same saddle to me, despite the similarities. The Flyer seems better suited to a more upright posture. Perhaps that is because as John says above, the saddle dips with each pedal stroke (I know it does this, because I had to put a dab of grease on the spring rails keeps it from squeaking/rubbing). That dipping would explain why the nose of the Flyer seems more apparent to me in comparison to the Standard.

Pete
Arlington, VA
On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 10:35:35 AM UTC-4 Jesse Stoddard wrote:
Okay, so I borrowed a B17 this morning and set it up on my Ogre (73 seat tube angle) with a Velo Orange long setback post (30mm setback), and even with the saddle slammed, still didn't have enough setback. Also couldn't get the nose angled up high enough. Within the next couple years I intend to own a frame with a slacker seat tube angle, but in the interim I'll have to come up with something with rails that will allow for greater setback, which I understand is a feature of the Rivet Loveland. 

I'm pretty curious about that C67, too. Any owners of which in this group?


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