Yep, frame size and design flexibility. One lug to rule them all.
Aesthetically I do prefer the classic seat stay capped and brazed to the 
side of the seat lug design, but I like the new lug just fine too.


On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-7, S wrote:
>
> In addition to the advantages Ryan mentions, I suppose another advantage 
> of the ball-and-socket lug is that it allows Grant to use the same lug on 
> different bikes and to tweak the rear end on existing models, all without 
> having to design and pay for a new lug each time. 
>
> I don't like the looks of the ball and socket lug either, I think it looks 
> sort of clunky, but developing and casting new lugs is super expensive, and 
> if I am right about the flexibility it affords, then I can't argue with the 
> design on practical grounds. 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:19:13 PM UTC-7 Scott McLain wrote:
>
>> I am curious to see what other's think of the new ball-in-socket seat 
>> tube lug that has now found its way on to all Riv bikes.  I don't like it.  
>> I don't know why or why not.  I hate to be critical of our good brothers 
>> and sisters at Riv.  I just love the old school lugs.  I would be 
>> interested to know how much money is saved going with the ball in socket 
>> lug and not using a bottom bracket lug.  Anyone know more about it?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>

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