Thank you all for the incredible information. I really do appreciate the 
time spent on my hunt for a glass hammer! Iv'e got a couple candidates so 
far, one being a local seller with a 93' (same age as me!) RB-1 frameset 
and another with a Mercian I'd like to get additional info on. The longer 
wheelbase of the Mercian is very tempting but I've also heard the RB-1 
rides stable for it's geo so more to come. 

Wishing everyone good health, 
Andrew

On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 3:19:47 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> If you decide low trail is what you want, you might consider the Soma 
> Grand Randonneur. Designed by the Boulder Bicycle people, but way, way 
> cheaper than their All-Road. If I had funds for a third bike, it would 
> probably be the one I'd choose. 
>
> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 10:06:09 PM UTC-4, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Hello Group.
>> Maybe I'll just start this conversation off with what I'm searching for 
>> and I'll add the backstory after. 
>>
>>    - steel frame + fork (lugged preferably) that could clear 700x32 
>>    tires 
>>    - rim brake
>>    - lightish tubing ( I weigh a scant 132lbs at 6'1") 
>>    - DT shifter braze-ons 
>>    - Trying to keep the price to no more than $1000 for frame + fork
>>    - Frames of all ages welcome 
>>    - Designed to hold weight in the front (but I can make do with a 
>>    saddlebag)
>>
>> Bikes I've had in the past to try to fit these requirements: 
>>
>>    - VO Campeur: way better suited for heavy touring. Way stouter than I 
>>    need.
>>    - Black Mtn Cycles monster cross: pretty nice but that frame really 
>>    wanted tires in the 38mm+ range which is overkill for me. 
>>    - Rivendell Roadini: damn fine frame and very comfortable. Tig welded 
>>    though and I might've gotten too large of frame with the 61cm. On my list 
>>    of possibilities though. The quality was also a disappointment for my 
>> first 
>>    riv, chipped paint out of the box and very poorly installed headset. 
>>
>> I just got done with my first longer ride on a 58cm Gazelle Champion 
>> Mondial AA frame . I built it up because riding my first brevet on the VO 
>> Campeur a year ago made me realize how important a more nimble bike, 
>> especially for majority road use, is. But I might've gone too far. It's a 
>> rocket no doubt but I found it fatiguing having to stay so vigilant on 
>> descents. And putting the weight up front lead to a very close call down a 
>> particularly sketchy downhill. I think slacker geometry might help with 
>> that ;) 
>>
>> All this to say, if any of you rando kids have some suggestions I'm all 
>> ears! 
>>
>> Thanks Group, 
>> Andrew
>>
>>

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