do NOT grease the stem/bar interface! 

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:48:10 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
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> Whew, I’m glad to have that clarified, and thank you, John. 
>
> I did my 10 miler tonight and I think the ticking is mostly resolved. It 
> was a windy night, and I was moving pretty quickly and there were a lot of 
> people out and about, so it was difficult to really hear. I think I did 
> hear some small ticking maybe 8 miles in, but it was aberrant. I’m hoping 
> the T9 works its way deeper into the crevices. I have real stem grease 
> coming via Amazon tomorrow - do you all think I should add that to the 
> stem/bar interface as well? 
>
> Thanks for all the help today; I’m getting more of an understanding about 
> how stuff works on the bike. It’s both enlightening and terrifying - can I 
> admit that here among all these enthusiasts? Why should more knowledge be 
> terrifying? Well, I used to ride bikes without thought as to what could go 
> wrong. Little noises weren’t even noticed. But the more I know, the more I 
> realize can go wrong. 
>
> This week lots went wrong on the bike. A couple nights ago I was headed 
> down Killer Hill at speed and noticed that my Edelux headlight had some 
> play in it. Huh, I thought, I don’t remember it moving like that... It all 
> got worse fast, so I came to a screeching halt in time for something silver 
> and round to fall off from the light mount, as the light hung loosely from 
> it. I realized that the silver hoop was one of two parts, and the other, an 
> inch long rod-type thing was missing. I backtracked and found the little 
> silver rod up the hill a ways (WHEW) and put it back the way I thought it 
> should go. 
>
> Shaken up by THAT but determined the show must go on, I mounted my bike, 
> and set off rather gingerly, as I feared the light mount loosening again. I 
> pushed off, towards a crossing and was nearly run down by an SUV whose 
> driver decided to run a stop sign. After some unpleasantries between us (I 
> admit to nothing), I was then forced to suffer the indignity of being 
> passed by a Roadie who was at least 20 years my senior.
>
> If you still don’t feel sorry for me, I will add the final straw was 
> taking a turn too tightly and hearing the sickening sound of metal scraping 
> concrete while feeling the bike underneath me skitter sideways. Pedal 
> strike. With my light mount barely holding and my pedal now noticeably 
> scuffed, I pointed my bike towards home. 
>
> Last night, the ticking in my bars was obnoxious and I was about to start 
> getting tics of my own. Arriving home, I set to work with my hex wrenches 
> trying to see where the noise was coming from. I found several loose 
> things, also disturbing. I came inside, started this thread and went to bed 
> at midnight.
>
> After swapping the stem a couple times today and all the futzing around 
> and guesswork, I envisioned the bike coming apart beneath me on tonight’s 
> descent. But, hey, everything held!
>
> So, thanks for all the help; I’m in need of it and I have learned a LOT 
> from this group. But I still maintain that knowing more is frightening.
>
> Leah
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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 1:12 PM, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> 
> Leah
>
> I'm sorry if "defective" implied "unsafe".  I meant the stem does not meet 
> it's design and hence is defective.  The Nitto design of the nut and shelf 
> interface has a small of margin of error, since the hex nut has short flats.
>
> I do NOT think the stem is unsafe to ride since you used a wrench on the 
> bolt to obtain adequate clamp force, and the creak is not present.
>
> If it was on my bike, I would use it and if the creak started again, place 
> a star washer under the bolt to prevent loosening.  The creak is your 
> 'clamp too loose' indicator.
>
> Alternatively, contact and RBW and see what if this covered by their 
> return policy.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
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