Steve, I didn't say it was a bad thing (I'm here & OC), just saying that most people are not going to know their stem is too long; they may know it feels weird, but will probably assume that's how it's supposed to be. As a person that's hung out in bike shops (too much) I've seen far too many people come in with their handlebars upside down, their forks backwards, the quick releases installed incorrectly, etc. AND be totally oblivious; give those same people a RTR Rivendell and it'll feel SOOO much better that even if it's not ideal they will be thrilled. The evidence? The relatively small number of posters here vs. The number of people who buy Rivendells. One of the mechanics at the last shop I frequented (Riv dealer, now closed) who incidentally had been a mechanic for many years said he'd never even heard of Rivendell until started working at that shop and mine was one of the first he'd ever seen! The vast majority are sold and evaporate into thin air only to show up for sale on Ebay or here many years later. The average bike buyer gets excited about bikes rides all summer long, it goes in the loft or garage when winter comes and many times never gets ridden again. Regarding Leah, she's started this thread as a reaction to her newest Rivendell and getting it to ride like her previous ones, without those previous bikes as reference she might know it feels funny, but not what it should feel like.
Not sure what Grant's status with the "average" Riv buyer is, but he's revered by hardcore Bridgestone & Rivendell riders and is very well known in the bike industry at large. Your comment regarding Radavist & Bikesnob makes me think you don't frequent either; many of the mainstay personalities on Radavist are big fans of Grant & Rivendell and both are mentioned regularly. Eben Weiss hardly goes a week or two without mentioning either Grant or Rivendell and both sites have linked ads for Rivendell. No doubt the average readers there are VERY aware of Grant & Rivendell. Not sure why you took issue with any of that, but I stand by all of it. It's all based on direct experience and/or observation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c06ab27f-65fb-4597-91b0-19de40327402%40googlegroups.com.
