The current Riv line up just isn't my thing. The older Riv line up was 
perfect for me and 6 years ago I would have been completely happy with any 
of them. I bought a 54cm Hunqapillar first, because I thought it was the 
most adaptable, and I think it's perfect running on any tire between 38mm 
to 55mm. I love that bike.

   For me, the current ones don't have the same magic. But that's just me.

   I think anyone should ride the new Riv lineup and/or find an older model 
if they wish to see what suits them best.

   Everyone is different!

John


On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 1:23:31 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> " but I'd never trade my older Rivs for one"
>
> TRADE!?!?!?  Hell no!  Always buy more bikes.  Keep what you've got, and 
> keep buying more.  More bikes!  
>
> :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 1:04:34 PM UTC-8, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>   From an 85cm PBH viewpoint, I think you would really need to ride both 
>> the old and new Homers to see what you like.
>>
>>   I have an older 57cm Homer and a 54cm Hunqapillar ,and I've ridden one 
>> of the new longer wheel base Rivs. It was a nice riding bike, but I'd never 
>> trade my older Rivs for one. The geometry of the older models is perfect 
>> for me, but I can only speak for myself.
>>
>> John
>>
>

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