The Glorius we have takes 48 mm fenders and 42-44 mm 650B tires. Its design 
is not different than a drop tube Hilson. It is light and responsive. What 
would RIv do to improve it? I guess they could fuss with the wheel base to 
get to 55mm tires. But unless you weigh over 200 pounds, what is the point 
of that? And you will never see Glorious lug work again ==> which is why I 
suggested to  Leah in the first place. 

I disagree that the Clem L is a budget bike. I know Riv promotes the budget 
deal, but when you look at the frame, it has everything.... multiple barrel 
braizes for racking, it has the Appaloosa fork, it has the fancy Riv drop 
outs, it has the long chain stays, and the build group is rather nice.  If 
it is 12 ounces heavier per frame than a Foy so what? It is significantly 
more robust. 

I guess I don't get the "light and airy" point of view. Once you have fat 
rubber and fenders you have the cat by the tail. Whether a bike weighs x 
pounds or x + 2 pounds isn't a game changer for getting up a hill.

Will 



 

On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "There's no reason for Riv to do an anniversary mixte when they have the 
> most distilled design for an all-rounder step thru possible for $1650."
>
> If there was "no reason" then the bike never would have been proposed. The 
> Clem L is a budget bike with very stout welded tubes, which is nothing like 
> the light and airy (and more expensive) Anniversary Mixte envisioned. I 
> don't think it's already been made by Riv, the Glorius/Wilbury is a 
> different bike. 
>
> In the end maybe The Hummingbird can be produced as a one-off full custom 
> - I suggested this in another convo myself - but that's not the point of 
> this thread. I would like to see it as a limited production model if at all 
> possible.
>
>

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