The refusal to shift in front is so touchy that I have to be on pancake-flat 
ground. Any threat of incline is a deal-breaker. I’ve been riding 6 years on 
these same paths on my friction-shifting Betty Foy and rarely have an issue. I 
don’t think it should be this touchy. I caught on pretty quick with the 
Clementine and was shifting way before the hills started and still no luck.

I also seem to be always moving the shifters to find silence in the drive 
train. Not so with my bar-end silver shifters on the Betz. And every now and 
then there is ghost shifting.  Because of the combination of these issues, I’m 
wondering if the shifters aren’t good. I was looking back at old threads and it 
seems my problems aren’t unique. Lots of folks disliked the clicky sun race 
shifters, but then some loved them. If it was an easy fix, that would be great, 
but I’d rather scrap the shifters and replace them if this is going to be my 
new reality. It’s miserable!

Lastly, I don’t even shift much. I will shift to the granny gear in the front 
on the monster hill home and then put it right back at the top of the hill. And 
that’s about all the shifting I do. I have been in the same two gears on the 
Betz for years. I’m a low-maintenance shifter!

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> On Aug 12, 2019, at 11:40 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The finicky stuff was the rear cuz those clicks did in fact act kinda indexy 
> and would sometimes leave you stuck slightly between gears. Which won't make 
> a lick of sense to you if you've always used friction, so we can yak later on 
> the PM about all that madness. 
> 
> The front shouldn't be happening if you're downshifting before the hill, but 
> WILL be a problem if you wait 'til you're already grinding up it. What the 
> chain needs on those shifts is a little bit of pressure relieved - almost a 
> paude - so the derailer can coax it off that big ring onto a smaller one. If 
> you're already stuck on that hill then the family is just going to have to 
> wait for mama as you head back down long enough to finish the shift and turn 
> around again. 
> 
> The trick here - it took me ages to learn this - is to shift too early. See 
> that hill coming? Don't wait until you're right there; go ahead and drop to 
> the small ring and get those legs spinning like mad. You'll gradually "catch 
> up to yourself" on the hill after the first spinning burst jetted you ahead 
> of everyone cuz you're fast you win!  
> 
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