This thread ties in well with some thinking I'd been doing along the same lines. I was originally going to build up a 90s MTB as a townie/errand runner/occasional overnighter/occasional dirt road, double track, or light single track excursion, then started thinking I'd get a Surly Troll instead - easy rack mounting, super tire clearance, etc. I scoffed at the recent Riv designs when they first started evolving. But the more I've read, the more I've realized that they're really ideal for that sort of riding. But they are too nice for what I have in mind. Who wants to have a super expensive bike getting jostled against the bike rack at the store, collecting scratches? That's what a beater like the Surly is for....right?
Then I started looking more at prices. Stock build Surly Trolls, Ogres, LHTs are in the $1400-1500 range. That's almost as much as the Clem! And if I'd jumped on the previous version of the Clems when they were blowing them out (being a particular fan of the mustard color, which is apparently no more), they were right in the middle of that range. Given the choice of a Surly vs. a Riv at a similar price point, the Clems start to look a whole lot more reasonable. Maybe I should get over this "who wants to scratch up such a nice bike" thing! That's what strategically placed strips of cotton bar tape are for on my old Kogswell. Kurt Henry Lancaster, PA (common lurker, rare poster) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/31f15228-4719-4710-93cb-27029c459521%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.