Reading this thread makes me remember all that led up to my current setup, most of the same steps and problems. *Unlike *you (I suspect) I'm quite heavy (6'0" 260 lbs, though I started riding closer to 290). *Like* you I tried different seats and seatposts for my dropbar Sam and Bosco bar Cheviot:
Saddles: - Brooks B67 --> modified to add a cutout and shoe laces between the sides to make an imitation "imperial" - Brooks Flyer Imperial ... essentially a sprung version of my next saddle the C19 - Ergon SFC3-L Gel <https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MSLM01Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1> - Brooks C19 - Sella Anatomica H2 Seatposts: - Nitto S-65 23mm setback - Velo Orange Grand Cru Long Setback MKII: 30.2mm setback <https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B014994Y3Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1> - Nitto S-84 37mm setback I ended up needing some extra setback while on the Sam, but I'd always used all the setback I could so when I installed the seat on the S84 it was actually *too far back*. Never had the problem before, figured the tilt was off as it was painful in the front contact point (when I didn't have enough setback it was painful on the rear contact points / sit bones). Now with the C19 or the Flyer (nearly the exact same width) positions in the middle of hte seat rails I'm *very* comfy. Until I moved it forward a bit (rather than using all the setback the rails and S84 would allow) I was worried I'd never get it right. Based on my own mistakes, I'd suggest going back to the start and working through the usual steps of fitting the seat height, seat position forward/back, bars and seat level: 1. Correct PBH measurement and seat height? Check again. 2. Is your knee over the pedal (KOPS *is *flawed but an okay start point <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/kops.html>) axle at 3:00 position? It's a rough estimate of how far forward/back your seat should be, rarely ideal but often close. Finally having enough setback available but using too much of it was where I went wrong myself. 3. Positioning the bars where you want them and assuming your stem length is about right, adjust the saddle level to match the bars for comfort. I've found that to mean pointing almost at the stem clamp: if the bars are above the seat, tilt up a little but not quite pointing at the stem clamp. If the bars are below the seat, tilt the seat to about level, maybe slightly downward in front ... not a common Riv position though. 4. Still feels wrong? Different stem length, different bar width, different crank arm length, build up your core/glutes, acupuncture ... at that point consult a professional for a fit? Good luck on the fit adventure, it's worth it when you get dialed in. All advise taking with large rocks of salt please. Abe On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:49:14 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote: > > It's a delicate dance; regarding the fore/aft adjustment of the saddle, I > wouldn't monkey with it too much, your knees should be properly positioned > in relation to the pedals/spindles and that's it. With that set you can > analyze handlebar position. I didn't see what size frame you are messing > with, but on my 53 Toyo Atlantis & medium Clementine I run 100mm Technomic > stems. So 110mm doesn't sound surprising. > Yes, the Brooks is going to take considerable breaking in, but should work > fine assuming you don't have a very broad frame or are extremely upright, > although I run B17s on a couple BMX cruisers that I sit very upright on, > with no issues. I might suggest playing with stem height; a centimeter up > or down can make a big difference. I don't think the Selle will solve your > dilemma. Possibly a c-17 all weather carved or a C-19 carved. I personally > found the regular C-19 to be overly stiff and uncomfortable over longer > distances. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
