My wife and I are considering his&hers mixtes.  I discussed it at
length with Keven.

The Yves Gomez is the Betty Foy.  All the frames they bring in are
Betty Foy's.  If anybody wants different color of any kind, it's
$200.  If they also happen to want different decals....like the Yves
Gomez decals, fine.  It's still $200 extra.  Strangely enough, my wife
wants a Black Betty.

On Mar 21, 5:45 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From the RBW page:
> The Betty Foy is a remarkable deal. The standard onenot  including the
> racks and gold fenders, which are really brasscosts about $2,100. The
> frame only, black and gold, $1,200. It costs more than the Betty
> because it's painted here and has more windows filled in.
>
> My curiosity is now piqued!
>
> René
>
> On 3/21/10, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > There aren't many big corporations in the bike biz. I seriously doubt
> > Soma has more than a dozen full-time employees. I believe the frames
> > are made in the same Taiwanese factory that makes the BF/YG.
>
> > On Mar 21, 6:00 pm, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> A few thoughts:  YG or Ebisu = supporting the little guy, Soma = large
> >> faceless corporation pretending to be counterculture.  Single TT a la
> >> Herse/Singer is absolutely stiffer, that's why most craft built mixtes
> >> have
> >> been that way.  YG and Ebisu are lugged, Soma is welded (right?).  As
> >> already mentioned, anything other than drop bars makes it easy to deal
> >> with
> >> a longer top tube.  Ebisu has cantis, debatably stronger than sidepulls
> >> and
> >> easy enough to set up assuming modern ones.  Why is the YG $200 more than
> >> the Betty Foy?  Other than being named after a female character, is there
> >> anything more feminine about the BF than that YG?  For $200 less, I think
> >> I
> >> like it better.  I personally would narrow it down to the RBW product or
> >> Ebisu.  Money not an object, the Ebisu is the classiest.  Since they are
> >> at
> >> least semi-custom, I wonder if you could get horizontal dropouts on one of
> >> those?
>
> >> Regards, Doug
>
> >> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> > Thank you, everyone ---
>
> >> > My handlebar choice will be (at the moment) either inverted Albatross or
> >> > a
> >> > set of Jitensha flat bars that I once had mounted on my Atlantis.  Those
> >> > bars still have the Paul thumbies and the Paul levers on them, so that
> >> > is
> >> > the option I'm leaning to.
>
> >> > The other responses regarding tire width -- I'd like to do something
> >> > between 35 and bigger.  Thanks for the link to the Soma 650B conversion.
> >> > That looks interesting.  I do like the canti brakes of the Ebisu.  I
> >> > like
> >> > canti brakes.
>
> >> > The other neat thing about the Soma is the horizontal drop out.  I was
> >> > giving serious consideration to trying out that new 9-speed IGH.  And, I
> >> > really like the double top tube design. I wonder if it is as strong as
> >> > the
> >> > Riv and Ebisu designs.
>
> >> > As for the Riv's.  Yes, I am a Riv fan (I own three Riv's already) but
> >> > the
> >> > Gomez just doesn't catch my eye, frankly.  I could get by the goofy name
> >> > and
> >> > "International Man. . ." thing if other aspects came together.  I like
> >> > the
> >> > intended use of the Gomez, and the way it could be set like a Hillborne,
> >> > but
> >> > I think it's the least stylish of the three bikes I mentioned.
>
> >> > Thank you also for the Velo Orange link.  That looks good as well, so
> >> > maybe
> >> > now it's a choice of four models.
>
> >> > Ray
>
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