You're thinking of Merry Sales <http://merrysales.com/>, which is a
(smaller??) competitor of QBP.  Similar to J & B which is another
distributer (they do Origin 8 bikes/parts).  Doesn't automatically make 'em
bad folks to work with.  Surly for example puts out some pretty innovative
bikes, same for Salsa.  Much rather have one than a Special-Ek.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That may be, but isn't Soma owned by one of the big distributors, like
> Surly is by QBP?  That is what I was referring to, and "large" is relative
> ;^)
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> thill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There aren't many big corporations in the bike biz. I seriously doubt
>> Soma has more than a dozen full-time employees. I believe the frames
>> are made in the same Taiwanese factory that makes the BF/YG.
>>
>> On Mar 21, 6:00 pm, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > A few thoughts:  YG or Ebisu = supporting the little guy, Soma = large
>> > faceless corporation pretending to be counterculture.  Single TT a la
>> > Herse/Singer is absolutely stiffer, that's why most craft built mixtes
>> have
>> > been that way.  YG and Ebisu are lugged, Soma is welded (right?).  As
>> > already mentioned, anything other than drop bars makes it easy to deal
>> with
>> > a longer top tube.  Ebisu has cantis, debatably stronger than sidepulls
>> and
>> > easy enough to set up assuming modern ones.  Why is the YG $200 more
>> than
>> > the Betty Foy?  Other than being named after a female character, is
>> there
>> > anything more feminine about the BF than that YG?  For $200 less, I
>> think I
>> > like it better.  I personally would narrow it down to the RBW product or
>> > Ebisu.  Money not an object, the Ebisu is the classiest.  Since they are
>> at
>> > least semi-custom, I wonder if you could get horizontal dropouts on one
>> of
>> > those?
>> >
>> > Regards, Doug
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > Thank you, everyone ---
>> >
>> > > My handlebar choice will be (at the moment) either inverted Albatross
>> or a
>> > > set of Jitensha flat bars that I once had mounted on my Atlantis.
>>  Those
>> > > bars still have the Paul thumbies and the Paul levers on them, so that
>> is
>> > > the option I'm leaning to.
>> >
>> > > The other responses regarding tire width -- I'd like to do something
>> > > between 35 and bigger.  Thanks for the link to the Soma 650B
>> conversion.
>> > > That looks interesting.  I do like the canti brakes of the Ebisu.  I
>> like
>> > > canti brakes.
>> >
>> > > The other neat thing about the Soma is the horizontal drop out.  I was
>> > > giving serious consideration to trying out that new 9-speed IGH.  And,
>> I
>> > > really like the double top tube design. I wonder if it is as strong as
>> the
>> > > Riv and Ebisu designs.
>> >
>> > > As for the Riv's.  Yes, I am a Riv fan (I own three Riv's already) but
>> the
>> > > Gomez just doesn't catch my eye, frankly.  I could get by the goofy
>> name and
>> > > "International Man. . ." thing if other aspects came together.  I like
>> the
>> > > intended use of the Gomez, and the way it could be set like a
>> Hillborne, but
>> > > I think it's the least stylish of the three bikes I mentioned.
>> >
>> > > Thank you also for the Velo Orange link.  That looks good as well, so
>> maybe
>> > > now it's a choice of four models.
>> >
>> > > Ray
>>
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