There aren't many big corporations in the bike biz. I seriously doubt
Soma has more than a dozen full-time employees. I believe the frames
are made in the same Taiwanese factory that makes the BF/YG.

On Mar 21, 6:00 pm, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few thoughts:  YG or Ebisu = supporting the little guy, Soma = large
> faceless corporation pretending to be counterculture.  Single TT a la
> Herse/Singer is absolutely stiffer, that's why most craft built mixtes have
> been that way.  YG and Ebisu are lugged, Soma is welded (right?).  As
> already mentioned, anything other than drop bars makes it easy to deal with
> a longer top tube.  Ebisu has cantis, debatably stronger than sidepulls and
> easy enough to set up assuming modern ones.  Why is the YG $200 more than
> the Betty Foy?  Other than being named after a female character, is there
> anything more feminine about the BF than that YG?  For $200 less, I think I
> like it better.  I personally would narrow it down to the RBW product or
> Ebisu.  Money not an object, the Ebisu is the classiest.  Since they are at
> least semi-custom, I wonder if you could get horizontal dropouts on one of
> those?
>
> Regards, Doug
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Thank you, everyone ---
>
> > My handlebar choice will be (at the moment) either inverted Albatross or a
> > set of Jitensha flat bars that I once had mounted on my Atlantis.  Those
> > bars still have the Paul thumbies and the Paul levers on them, so that is
> > the option I'm leaning to.
>
> > The other responses regarding tire width -- I'd like to do something
> > between 35 and bigger.  Thanks for the link to the Soma 650B conversion.
> > That looks interesting.  I do like the canti brakes of the Ebisu.  I like
> > canti brakes.
>
> > The other neat thing about the Soma is the horizontal drop out.  I was
> > giving serious consideration to trying out that new 9-speed IGH.  And, I
> > really like the double top tube design. I wonder if it is as strong as the
> > Riv and Ebisu designs.
>
> > As for the Riv's.  Yes, I am a Riv fan (I own three Riv's already) but the
> > Gomez just doesn't catch my eye, frankly.  I could get by the goofy name and
> > "International Man. . ." thing if other aspects came together.  I like the
> > intended use of the Gomez, and the way it could be set like a Hillborne, but
> > I think it's the least stylish of the three bikes I mentioned.
>
> > Thank you also for the Velo Orange link.  That looks good as well, so maybe
> > now it's a choice of four models.
>
> > Ray

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