... and please allow me to clarify... my preference of the 66cm Jones 2.5 
riser loop bar on the 65cm Clem H is only in direct comparison to the stock 
55cm cromo Bosco and Chocomoose.  I have not yet tried any other bars on 
the Clem. The Jones is paired with a VO stem adapter and a short Dimension 
threadless stem (riser stem with probably 30-40mm effective reach... maybe 
a "50mm stem" with 25 -35 deg rise? I haven't actually measured it but the 
end of grips come back a little behind the headtube.

The current Chocomoose build is on a tall 73deg parallel frame with 700x33 
semi-slicks.  Coming off the above Clem H which was my only rider for 
better part of a year and swapping over to this bike I definitely felt a 
handling difference but have not been able to directly compare the 
Chocomoose on each frame with several months to a year since using the 
Choco on the Clem.  Where the Chocomoosed 73deg frame felt a little quicker 
steering and maybe more reactive than I may usually prefer for an 
upright rider on the pavement these same handling characteristics became 
somewhat unnoticeable or maybe even preferred once I hit the mixed 
conditions of offroad/Multiuse paths and trail sections.
  
On yesterday's ride I covered a variety of terrain and handled most 
underbiking with relative ease.  It was 38deg around midday with some 
wet/muddy areas thawing in the sun from the recent deep freeze but I hit a 
patch of a low wooded area that is usually wet and sloppy in normal 
conditions and had to hike-a-bike across the still frozen and heavily 
rutted and pock-marked ground (from a mix of mtb tire tracks and horse 
hooves on multipurpose trails) that otherwise exceeded the limits of my 
700x33mm wheels.  As noted before, I did miss the ability to just slide my 
hands fore/aft along the grips as I'd done with the moustache bar with 
non-aero levers on this same bike.  It's this thinking that has me 
wondering whether an inverse brake levered Chocomoose may offer a little 
more of what I liked about the moustache bar in a slightly wider/stiffer 
package.  With the mtb levers and more traditional flat bar grips on the 
Choco you do have two or three distinct hand placement areas but I think 
I'd like them even more if I could find some of those in-between grips for 
seamless adjustments while singlespeeding on varied terrain and mixed 
conditions.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville, NJ 

On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:52:55 AM UTC-5, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I only have a Chocomoose... initially bought to try on my 65cm Clem H. 
>  I’ve been equally interested in the bullmoose and Boscomoose as well but 
> haven’t had the opportunity to try them yet.  I found the Chocomoose a 
> little too narrow on some technical singletrack with the big Clem... and 
> considering my now knobby tired Clem is otherwise my most singletrack 
> equipped bike I wanted something a little wider and more flared.  I thought 
> I might try the Bullmoose but ended up trading for some Jones loops (66cm 
> riser variety) and greatly prefer those on the Clem. 
>
> I more recently installed the Chocomoose on an old road bike turned winter 
> single speed and finally got a nice ride in yesterday.  It’s still too 
> early for a thorough evaluation but it in comparison to a moustache I 
> previously used on a dirt drop stem in this same frame I like the longer 
> grip area of the Chocomoose and slightly wider grip but kind of wish the 
> grips were uninterrupted more like on the moustache and thinking I’d like 
> to use some bar end inverse levers instead of the mtb style short pull 
> levers. 
>
> Brian Cole

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