Eric, I'm 6'-0.5" and have a 90.5 PBH. My saddle height for road riding is typically 1 cm less than what Riv recommends, but that's improved over the past year or two because I'm more conscious of stretching my hips, hams and glutes after a workout or a ride. It really does help. I ride a 61 Roadini with a 60mm stem and a 46 Noodle. I had a 58 sam with an 80mm stem and a 46 Noodle. Also have a 64 Toyo Atlantis with Ahearne+Map bar and it's very comfortable.
You're taller than me by a smidge, but compared to me, more of your length is in your upper body. Even with shorter arms, I'd think a 58 Sam with drops and a short reach stem should fit you fine unless your lower back or posterior chain is shortened/very tight. As for stems, you can get a shorty Technomic Deluxe from Ben's, down to a 50mm. See them here <https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem/stem_nitto_ntc-dxlong_870/product> . Tom On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:08:22 PM UTC-4, Eric Myers wrote: > > Up until about a month ago I rode 58cm sized bikes, in varying degrees of > (dis)comfort. Then I started riding my new significantly larger Sam > Hillborne and realized all my older bikes are too small, so I've basically > decided to replace one of my old bikes with something similar (mid-80s > sport tourer) in a larger size, and sell the rest. Now I'm trying to > figure out that sizing. > > > > I'm a little over 6'1" (187cm) and long in the torso but with only normal > length arms, according to my dress shirts. So to paraphrase an old joke, > my arms aren't quite long enough to reach the handlebars, and I need an > extra couple cm of handlebar/stem height to compensate. > > > > My PBH is 89.5 cm. According to Rivendell, my saddle height should be > 78-79cm, and my starting frame size should be 62-64 cm (The Sam is > different because it is an expanded frame). For whatever reason, that > saddle height is not comfortable and I tend to use something a couple cm > shorter. (Possibly because I keep my feet further forward on the pedal?) > > > > On the Sam I have Albatross bars and love them, but would like to have a > second bike with a different cockpit. Stretching forward has generally not > been as comfortable to me as riding in the drops against a headwind, so I > am hoping that a larger frame, plus a short reach stem (I'd try one of > Analog's w(Right) stems if they were cheaper), and short reach drops like > the Soma Highway 1 bar might add up to something comfortable. > > > > If you have a similar body challenges, or a preference for a slightly > shorter saddle height, I'd love to hear about your thoughts and experience > on bike sizing. Ditto for drop bars. I know I'm going to have to try > riding a number of different bikes, but I'd like to start out trying the > right size. > > > > Best regards, > > Eric > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
