Another one who would argue it's worth what someone is willing to pay.

Because haven't been back "into" bikes long enough (just under six
years), hard to judge on used bicycle (and part) prices.

eBay is an interesting market as others have mentioned.  Things can go
for more than "retail".  But then, I'll argue it's only retail if the
place has it in stock.  Probably am remembering this wrong, but when
Sean had his shifters for sale, Rivendell had been out of them for a
bit.  It's also possible the buyer doesn't want to deal with a
particular retail seller.

Things are also subject to fads.  If folks have noticed, a few Bleriot
frames have sold recently for well more than new.

But custom bikes?  Really hard to predict.  Can be the same way with
custom guitars.  Especially acoustics.  Have seen really nice,
expensive instruments sell used for very little.  Especially when one
considers the type and quality of wood involved.  Not to mention
building time.  Yet, if the builder is someone who is in demand, used
can go for nearly as much as new.  (Kevin Ryan and Jim Olson guitars
come to mind).

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Mar 9, 11:00 pm, rob markwardt <robmar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In the add it mentioned it was featured in RR#8.  Just read the
> article... frame at that time was $1050...though this one does come
> with BB and headset.  I remember passing on an Atlantis a few years
> ago because the seller wanted more than what the frame orignally sold
> for.  Peanuts compared to what they cost now...kind of wish I'd bought
> it!
>
> On Mar 9, 12:18 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good point.  This one on ebay claims to have been built by Waterford.
> > That was the basis for my hypothetical.  Do you think this Waterford
> > Custom retailed for a lot less than $3000?
>
> > On Mar 9, 12:10 pm, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:07 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > So, if a new custom costs $3000 and a new stock frame costs $2000 from
> > > > the same builder (Waterford Rivs, for example), then your used custom
> > > > is worth some percentage less than $2000, in my opinion.  Am I wrong
> > > > about that?  Would you pay more for a used custom Riv (that fit you)
> > > > than you would for a used Hilsen (in your best size)?  I think they
> > > > have identical value, assuming they are the right bike for the
> > > > application, etc etc.
>
> > > Well - a custom isn't made at waterford, iirc. Mark(?) Nobliette(sp?)
> > > is doing those.
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