Your idea would probably work. I do prefer at least the idea of a half
fender in front -- I think I measured my best length at about 14" behind
fork crown -- and supported by a strut either from 3/4-way toward the
trailing end to bosses mid-fork-leg, or else run the struts from the
leading edge of the fender to ditto. You'd get at least some protection
from spray as the wheel turned off the directly-ahead position.

I have thought of a dt-mounted splash guard that is just wide enough to
cover the chainrings but narrow enough not to hit the inside of the crank
arms; again, a bit more protection from spray when you turn the wheel. (I
haven't actually tried this bit, though; my last several dt guards were
just the wideth of 60 or 65 mm fenders.)

On the rear, I had the Matthews built with a rear rack with boss at end for
the 3d rear fender bolt, but I've been using the bike sans racks; the
Carradice Super C Slim bag, though, does serve as a splash guard to
supplement the bit of fender running from chainstay bridge to st bridge.

In the past I've simply cut the rear fender to protrude just aft of a
Carradice saddlebag, and that seems to keep the crud off both bag and
saddle.

*Now* I just need to find fenders that are at least 65 mm wide, made for
700C wheels, and that have a more shallow profile than the PB, SKS, VO,
Honjo, or Bluemels that I've seen so far -- the PB Cascadia, for example,
crowds the 60+ mm Big One rear tire too much.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Mat Grewe <matgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick:  Your system is pretty close to what I was thinking.  For the
> record I have not tried my fender ideas, but thought through them after
> seeing a few different folks' methods.
>
> The rear fender would be about the same, but ideally attached to a rack of
> some kind as that tubing is significantly harder to bend than any fender
> stay I have used.  I'm curious, what length did you find works best for
> that rear extension?
>
> The front would vary just a little.  I was thinking of having a thin,
> rolled edge aluminum (looks nicer than plastic and the rolled edge would
> reduce cutting myself) downtube mudguard running the full length of the
> downtube.  Then a chain-guard covering the front half of the chainrings
> only, not interfering with a derailleur.  This would protect the chainring
> against schmoo thrown up from the front tire.  Then, if necessary to
> protect a light, a front fender only protruding out in front of the fork,
> perhaps a little behind to protect the bottom of the headset as well.  But
> that way there are no stays on the front wheel to buckle and potentially
> cause a crash.
>
> Again, all theory...
>

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