Patrick:  Your system is pretty close to what I was thinking.  For the 
record I have not tried my fender ideas, but thought through them after 
seeing a few different folks' methods.

The rear fender would be about the same, but ideally attached to a rack of 
some kind as that tubing is significantly harder to bend than any fender 
stay I have used.  I'm curious, what length did you find works best for 
that rear extension?

The front would vary just a little.  I was thinking of having a thin, 
rolled edge aluminum (looks nicer than plastic and the rolled edge would 
reduce cutting myself) downtube mudguard running the full length of the 
downtube.  Then a chain-guard covering the front half of the chainrings 
only, not interfering with a derailleur.  This would protect the chainring 
against schmoo thrown up from the front tire.  Then, if necessary to 
protect a light, a front fender only protruding out in front of the fork, 
perhaps a little behind to protect the bottom of the headset as well.  But 
that way there are no stays on the front wheel to buckle and potentially 
cause a crash.

Again, all theory...


Steve:  You are spot on that a fendered bike would be quicker to clean 
after each ride!  I just found myself slacking when I had fenders and 
commuted full time in the winter (I have since moved out rural where the 
roads just are not safe for cyclists part of the winter)...  But I had salt 
everywhere on the bike.  I recall hearing that my county (La Crosse, 
Wisconsin) recently switched salt formulas to one that seems to hang in the 
air, covering everything.  It works great on the roads, but is an absolute 
mess on anything travelling those roads.  I suppose I could put fenders on 
during the winter as I don't ride trails that time of year, but I did not 
enjoy installing them.  My perfectionist nature takes over and I end up 
spending hours dialing in the fender line!!

Mat

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