I rode both when I went to Riv to pick a bike in 2015. I liked the Clem L, 
but I loved the Cheviot. I would have adored the Clem if I had never gotten 
on the Cheviot. The Cheviot handles a bit better and has lovely lugs to 
look at. Cheviot has the appearance of being longer, whether or not it is; 
they are both long bikes. What I didn’t realize was the Clem can take wider 
tires and has better fender clearance. I went through all kinds of 
gyrations to fit 52s on the Cheviot with fenders, I could have done 60s on 
a Clem easily. I also admit, being a visual person, I was swayed by the 
nicer shade of orange on the Cheviot than on the Clem, but once again, if 
Cheviot hadn’t been there I would have been happy with that orange, and 
richer, and maybe still had a bike;-). This is my do-over.

Cheviot would be better for longer rides, touring and a full day out and 
about. Clem is more of let’s go for a spin or an afternoon. As far as Mixte 
vs. ‘L’, Cheviot has a bit more ‘manliness’ than a Clem L. I preferred the 
straight angle of the Cheviot (if you look at the different sizes, the 
upper tube has different attachment points; the 60cm looks great because it 
is a continuous line) than the curve of the Clem. (I prefer that look in 
cars as well; boxier shapes over curves; I used to call some cars as 
looking like they came through a birth canal.) 

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 1:53:20 PM UTC-7, Jamo. wrote:
>
> Can any riders speak to the main differences between the Cheviot and the 
> Clem L?  I am looking for a step through commuter.
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:01:57 PM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>> Funny I had the exact same thought about a looking out for a second-hand 
>> Clem when the new Mountain Bike starts shipping.  I'm looking for a 
>> complete 59 L or even 52 Clem H. I have a very sturdy and Dutch-heavy 
>> step-over now, a Torker Cargo T. The Clem would be a lighter and more 
>> sporty alternative overall, I think. 
>>
>> Maybe I'll be blow away by the mountain bike instead.  I guess we'll know 
>> soon enough.
>>
>>
>> [image: CargoT.JPG]
>>
>

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