On Mar 7, 8:12 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just read Grant's reply to the "carbon bashing bashing" thread and I was
> heartened to learn that (1) he "bashes" -- the quotation marks to indicate
> that this word is used very provisionally -- carbon out of a sense of duty
> and (2) almost even more so, that he has little interest in pushing the
> nostalgia angle. I see no evidence at all that he is dissing a competitor
> for his own commercial advantage; that sort of interpretation involves a
> hermaneutic that is IMO close to paranoid. ("*2.* (Psychiatry)
> *Informal*exhibiting undue suspicion ...)
>
> Now Grant may be wrong; perhaps indeed the high end carbon frames and forks
> out there are superlatively durable; maybe Grant ought to state his
> willingness to consider Calfee's exempt from his warnings. I don't know. But
> if I had his inside information -- I have no reason to believe that he is
> lying about it -- I'd damn well say the same things as he.
>
> One thing is undeniable: there was no such widespread scuttlebutt about
> steel, titanium or aluminum forks and frames breaking; for whatever reason,
> the volume rather signifcantly increased only when carbon fiber became
> common in the bike industry.
>
Thanks Patrick. I just read Grant's response on his website and what
puzzles me is he seems to be mixing the failure of carbon FORKS with
carbon FRAMES. I agree with him that a broken fork, whether carbon or
any other material, can cause serious injury and even death. I stated
above that I was NOT talking about carbon forks, handlebars, seatpost
or any other bike part. I was only talking about carbon FRAMES and his
constant statements that they're not repairable.However, it seems that a man of his insight, connections and knowledge would be able to distinguish between a FORK and a FRAME. Carbon frames build by good builders like Calfee, Crumpton, Parlee and Serotta, to name a few, don't seem to break just "riding along." May be they do and since he's an industry "insider" he may see it. But you would think with the internet and all, that we be hearing about it. For some reason we don't. Carbon forks, handlebars, seatpost and other bike parts, are a different issue. Maybe the best solution for those interested is to match a steel fork with a carbon frame? I don't know, it seems that people who are paranoid about carbon are just not going to ride it at all. Good Luck! > On a lighter note: it is also reassuring that one can now become a trained > and certified Rivendellian in just five years: > > ***Indeed, there was a time when it might take decades for someone to > transform from a new cyclist to a Rivendell-riding fuddy-duddy, but now the > process only takes about five years.* > > Youknowwho > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
