Thanks for the summary.  You do make it sound simple.  Makes me wonder why none of the owners who have them have ever had any idea how to go about adjusting one.

On 07/24/2018 03:07 PM, Jeremy Till wrote:
Hey Steve, it's really simple to adjust a threadless headset:

1. Loosen clamping bolts on the stem.
2. Tighten the bolt in the top cap just enough that no play can be discerned via the usual headset adjustment check (locking front brake, rocking the bike against the fork).  If the headset is too tight, loosen until there is play and re-tighten appropriately.
3. Check that stem is aligned with front wheel
4. Tighten clamping bolts on the stem.

I then usually double check that the headset is rotating freely by lifting the bike with the rear end elevated and making sure the fork returns to center when turned to either side, but i would do that for either a threaded or threadless headset.

In general I wouldn't say that either threaded or threadless headsets are inherently easier or harder to understand or adjust; it's just a matter of educating yourself on the procedures either way.

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 10:24:15 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

    Actually, a threaded headset's adjustment is quite easy to
    understand.
    It's obvious, really: there are nuts that are clearly meant to be
    tightened or loosened.  Threadless is another story: there's no
    visible
    means of support, other than maybe mash down hard on the stem and
    then
    clamp it down, but that hardly seems to make any sense, and if
    that was
    how it was supposed to work it couldn't possibly be very accurate.

    But my point is simply that for all the talk about how simple it is,
    I've yet to find anybody on a ride who knew how to adjust one even
    though they all had them and they all had the tools.  (And no, I
    have no
    idea how to do it.  I can do a fair job with a threaded headset,
    though.)

    And I should add, the only bike I ever had that had an issue with the
    threaded headset loosening turned out to be a problem with the
    washers
    not being thick enough.  Once that was fixed, no further
    problems.  Of
    course I don't ride MTB.


    On 07/24/2018 12:37 PM, masmojo wrote:
    > Grant, yes that's the technique I use (learned working in a bike
    shop 37 years ago), but no matter, eventually they come loose.
    Steel headsets tend to stay in place better, fewer problems with
    loosening, but they're heavy. Aluminum on the other hand comes
    loose no matter. I discover mine is loose typically on washboard
    surfaces when I'm miles from home.
    >
    > Steve, thing is people who can't adjust a threadless headset are
    going to have a hard time wrapping their head around a threaded
    headset/quill stem as well.


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Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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