It's kind of funny... I just recently finished my 3rd or 4th ride on my 
65cm Clem H since installing a Thule Yepp Mini front seat and having 
previously been somewhat regretful about missing out on the Rosco Monster 
Mixte and hemming/hawing about going for a 64Clem L while available I'm now 
becoming convinced that (for my purposes and with my current build) either 
of those two step throughs would not likely offer much advantage to my 
current 65cm Clem H due to the following:  

Although I can't comment about or compare the fit of the iBert, with the 
Yepp Mini the distance between my saddle nose and the back of the Yepp seat 
is still so narrow despite the long Clem H top tube that the shorter top 
tube (67vs65cm if I remember correctly) of the Rosco Mixte would not likely 
improve matters much for me anyway.  This is with a relatively short nosed 
Brooks B72 saddle (vintage double rail B72 with Breezer seat sandwich 
adapter and stock Clem seatpost.)  I suppose with one of those noseless 
saddles the spacing would be great enough between saddle and baby seat to 
comfortably move about on the Clem L but as it is (with my current parts 
selection) I'd likely continue swinging a leg over the back anyway.  Just 
my personal observation but it's making me glad I didn't try to sell my 
Clem H or trade for an L at the time I was considering it (since I simply 
can't afford to have both, unfortunately.)

I also flip flopped baby seat plans a couple times only to come back full 
circle to my original plan of the Yepp Mini after finding the Thule Ride 
Along rear seat (which I was generously gifted by a friend that could not 
use it on their own bike) was not a good fit with the Clem H seatstay 
spacing so I came back to the front seat plan I initially considered.  My 
son seems very happy with the current set-up and loves the view so far!  
The RideAlong rear will still see future use on either one of my wife's 
bikes or another of mine as our son gets older.

Happy riding,
Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 12:57:21 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

> "The thread that won't die!!"
>
> I suppose all the huge Rosco Mixtes and 64 Clem Ls have been spoken for?
>
> I regret not getting one, it would have made my iBert usable when my kid 
> was around a year.  As it was, it was hard to get on the bike with my 65 
> Clem H the iBert was mounted.  I tried it on my older Road Standard and it 
> was near impossible.
>
> Now I have a Burley Bee trailer for carrying the kid and it's fine, but, I 
> can see how the step through frames are very useful with a front load.  For 
> a long time I didn't want to believe it, but now I can see it.
>
> Anyway, carry on.
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:28 PM MartyG <martin...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Pre-ordered one of the big ones! Can't see a single compromise to this 
>> being a real winner - unless you call waiting until summer for delivery a 
>> compromise. Looks to be an all-grown-up all-rounder if there ever was one. 
>>
>> Can't wait to see pics. And color. And a delivery notice.
>>
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