With a PBH of 80 I like the 650b wheel size. No or reduced toe overlap and the bike just looks more in proportion. But really light wheels (24/28 spoke rims and "racing" hubs) are not available in that size to my knowledge. So 700c is better for a go-fast. I like v-brakes a lot. They work in wet and dry conditions and are easy to install and adjust. I dislike the R559 sidepulls due to just OK braking in dry weather and horrible in wet conditions. But I bought a Roadini with mid-reach sidepulls and they seem appropriate for that bike. So even for me one wheel size or brake type isn't right all the time. Potential bike buyers live in a huge variety of climates and their heights and uses for bikes cover an equally wide range. I think that the choices Rivendell offers are appropriate. I want a Cheviot in dark green with v-brakes though and they don't make it . You can't please everyone. On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:24:13 AM UTC-7, tc wrote: > > Looking at the new Homer vs. new (canti/V) Sam, the question popped up in > my mind, why bother with side pull and center pull brakes any longer? > Aesthetics? And if so, are the aesthetics of canti/V *that *offensive to > some? Is there some technical reason? I'm asking because I'm truly > interested what others think, and don't know why *I* would choose a bike > with side/center pulls over canti/V's, all else the same. > > If Riv, in an effort to reduce redundancy, and *if* it allowed them to > offer more different models (I don't know that it would, just guessing), > determined that all future bikes will be offered only with canti/V posts, > is there anyone that would be significantly miffed? The new catalog almost > seems hard pressed to justify *significant* differences in Homer/Sam, > Atlantis/Joe. > > It seems that most on this forum at least, and Riv, are in the bigger tire > with fender camp. I've never read a post about someone wishing for less > room for tires and fenders. The majority tend not to be weight weenies, or > at least keep 1 featherweight in their stable for racing, but like their > other frames for other reasons. I don't know if we on this forum are in > the majority of all Riv owners, but by looking at the > more-decked-out-than-my-Riv "New Bike Saturday" pictures on Riv's > instagram, I'm guessing weight is their last concern.... > > In general, I would prefer Riv offer either a Homer or a Sam, and either > an Atlantis or a Joe. I'm making a big assumption that doing so would be > financially better, but for some reason it might not be. Anyway, pick the > best of each and introduce Homer Hillborne and Joe Atlantis (kidding, but > you know what I mean) Each would offer 650b options in the mid sizes and > only canti/V brakes. > > And, after ridding itself of those 2 redundancies, inject 1 or 2 new bikes > into the mix that are not loaded tourers or country bikes. I'm no business > major, but seems to me that redundant models of bikes isn't far off from > the GM failed strategy of offering basically the same car but calling one a > Buick X vs. a Pontiac Y vs. a Olds Z, and we know where that ended up. > > I just want Riv to succeed in a big way. I so love their bikes. So, I > started thinking, in a curious way, if it were me, what would I do > differently? Starting with only canti/V brakes and some 650b options in > all/most models might be a place to start. Curious about others thoughts. > > Tom > > > > >
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