Why stop with brakes? Maybe Riv should just have one model, all things for all people right? Your choice whether you want to run 23 mm tires or 63 mm tires! One frame tubing spec, one wheel size, for all! Any color you want, as long as it is grilliver?
/sarcasm I agree with the poster that said it would reduce sales. Some people prefer a bike with sidepulls, if Riv did not have them, they'd be likely to go elsewhere. A Roadeo or a Roadini is a very different animal than the Atlantis and Appaloosa and thusly different part types accommodated. Then there's the other point of model overlap. If Riv wants to have different models in a similar space what's it to the OP? Is this some kind of reaction to the cash flow problems over the wintertime? I mean, the big manufacturers not only differentiate by model, but then also by build groupsets, wheels and so forth. So outfits like Trek, Giant and Specialized have a byzantine array of models to offer. In light of this I don't think having some model overlap in Riv models is a problem, I mean, the big OEMs have a huge amount of overlap when you consider the difference between some of these models is as little as 100 grams when talking about 105 vs Ultegra, etc. Here's something I ripped from Trek's site about just the various kind of uses they are thinking about addressing. And Rivendell has too much overlap? On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > We should also remember that it was Grant that convinced Tektro to start > producing the R559 (aka "Silver") caliper with it's 55-76mm reach and > clearance for ~38mm tires and fenders, and this brake was basically the > raison d'etre for the first A. Homer Hilsens. So it makes sense that he > would keep speccing it on that bike. > > > On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:24:13 AM UTC-7, tc wrote: >> >> Looking at the new Homer vs. new (canti/V) Sam, the question popped up in >> my mind, why bother with side pull and center pull brakes any longer? >> Aesthetics? And if so, are the aesthetics of canti/V *that *offensive >> to some? Is there some technical reason? I'm asking because I'm truly >> interested what others think, and don't know why *I* would choose a bike >> with side/center pulls over canti/V's, all else the same. >> >> If Riv, in an effort to reduce redundancy, and *if* it allowed them to >> offer more different models (I don't know that it would, just guessing), >> determined that all future bikes will be offered only with canti/V posts, >> is there anyone that would be significantly miffed? The new catalog almost >> seems hard pressed to justify *significant* differences in Homer/Sam, >> Atlantis/Joe. >> >> It seems that most on this forum at least, and Riv, are in the bigger >> tire with fender camp. I've never read a post about someone wishing for >> less room for tires and fenders. The majority tend not to be weight >> weenies, or at least keep 1 featherweight in their stable for racing, but >> like their other frames for other reasons. I don't know if we on this >> forum are in the majority of all Riv owners, but by looking at the >> more-decked-out-than-my-Riv "New Bike Saturday" pictures on Riv's >> instagram, I'm guessing weight is their last concern.... >> >> In general, I would prefer Riv offer either a Homer or a Sam, and either >> an Atlantis or a Joe. I'm making a big assumption that doing so would be >> financially better, but for some reason it might not be. Anyway, pick the >> best of each and introduce Homer Hillborne and Joe Atlantis (kidding, but >> you know what I mean) Each would offer 650b options in the mid sizes and >> only canti/V brakes. >> >> And, after ridding itself of those 2 redundancies, inject 1 or 2 new >> bikes into the mix that are not loaded tourers or country bikes. I'm no >> business major, but seems to me that redundant models of bikes isn't far >> off from the GM failed strategy of offering basically the same car but >> calling one a Buick X vs. a Pontiac Y vs. a Olds Z, and we know where that >> ended up. >> >> I just want Riv to succeed in a big way. I so love their bikes. So, I >> started thinking, in a curious way, if it were me, what would I do >> differently? Starting with only canti/V brakes and some 650b options in >> all/most models might be a place to start. 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