I like the old centerpulls on my Fuji 650B conversion, strong braking with
good modulation... until they get wet, then they're crap until the rims are
cleared. Compare that to the V brakes on my Black Mountain, which are
strong all the time. And have better tire clearance.

So put me in the canti/V camp, save the caliper brakes for traditionalists
who ride on mostly dry roads.

Eric

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:09 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Lots of folks are intimidated by cantilever brakes. That's just a fact. In
> any case, until you get beyond 42mm tires, centerpulls work fine--my Dia
> Compes allow the easy installation and removal of a 700x43 BG Rock and Road
> with no deflation. Not sure what the clearance is for the biggest Tektro
> sidepulls, but I know my vintage Dia Compe G sidepulls (57mm reach?) take a
> 35 with no issues. Not everybody needs/wants to run the massive tires that
> seem to be so popular at the moment. I personally thing 38-42 works very
> well for most paved and dirt road conditions. The Legolas as I understand
> it is one of the lightest, if not the lightest Rivendell frameset, and
> certainly looks bad-ass with cantis. But that is specifically a bicycle
> built for racing in muddy conditions.
>
> I think the other issue running through this thread--redundancy in
> models--may have to do with the maturation of the designer's view of
> bicycles, and what makes a good and useful one. If you believe the best
> bikes are bikes that can carry more than a power bar and a CO2 cartridge
> and that have tires with a width greater than a quarter and should have
> high or swept back bars for premium enjoyment, then, after time, your bike
> models may start to resemble one another more than they don't. Eventually,
> they breed until you have a mutt, which as we all know is the healthiest,
> happiest breed of dog there is. Personally, I still think most of the
> models are distinct enough to be worthy of continued existence, but perhaps
> with most everything moving to MIT, that will eventually change. I think GP
> has built up a varied and eclectic and distinctive and fun and useful
> ouevre ever since 1994.  And who knows what's down the road?
>
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:42:18 PM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>>
>> The brake thing is something that I think people do care about. I
>> personally would like canti mounts on every frame, but I know people who
>> feel the exact opposite.
>>
>> I would love to see it go in the direction of race bike, real world road
>> bike, country bike, tour/off road, and plus mtn bike.
>
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