Thanks to Dave I was able to order a 59 today (have fun with the QB!). 
Maybe a bit on the big side but after a conversation with one of the nice 
young fellows at the global headquarters we decided that it was the right 
one for me. I'm going to run those super wide Crust (666mm) drops on it at 
first. I think with a 5cm technomic or a short dirt drop I'll be able to 
get it pretty close to where they are on my 60cm Surly LHT (60.5 TT). With 
the Rat Trap Pass tires that bike has 1 cm shorter stand over height but I 
should get the bars much higher on the Riv.  If not I'm happy to ride 
albatross on anything. Going to build some wheels and do a parts 
bin/vintage build first and then decide on how to set it up. Anyone 
thinking 1X11 or is that too cool already?

They said they would send me a pic of the extra top tube, which he 
described as arching from the seat tube to the down tube (??). I figured it 
would be fun to wing it and put the money down sight unseen. I don't think 
there has been an extra tube on any Riv that I didn't like, so...

It's been 12 years since I bought a Riv and 5 since I put together anything 
serious. My wife noted that I have built three vintage bikes in the last 
year or two but those don't count!

brynnar
Indy


On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 10:36:08 AM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Is there info on exact tire sizes for the different sizes? I'm between the 
> 59 and 62. I like fat tires so I think I'm comfortable with the 59 which is 
> exciting as the recent sizing has not made me feel like there was a bike 
> out there that'd really fit. I'd prefer that they did fat 650b all the way 
> up the sizes but if I'm in the market for anything it's a fast-ish all-road 
> drop bar bike. Double top tube in the original Altantis color? COOL!
>
> This is the most excited I've been about a new Riv in a while. Anyone 
> interested in a 59cm 2004 Quickbeam??  
>
> Brynnar
> Indy
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 8:13:25 AM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>>
>> As Keith points out standover heights are listed so you can also do 
>> PBH - 2.54 = standover as a starting point. That is to say the 
>> Standover should be 1in less than PBH (1 in crotch clearance in bare 
>> feet). 
>>
>> You can fudge 1 cm larger since you are wearing shoes which lifts you 
>> up, and 3cm maybe 4cm smaller on the 6deg frames. For skinny tires and 
>> road use go for the bigger end and for the fattest tires and off road 
>> use lean smaller. Bigger bikes ride more stable / smoother, may have 
>> less toe overlap (depends on tire size), and it's easier to get the 
>> bars higher so can be more comfortable as well. 
>>
>> Ignore the actual frame size in cm, since it doesn't correlate to 
>> non-Riv sizing, classic Riv bikes, or anything you rode in the 70's. 
>> Unless of course you rode a bike way to small in the 70's & 80's like 
>> many people did in which case it might be the same. 
>>
>> If I'm between sizes I also take top tube length into account when 
>> using drops, but it doesn't matter much at all for sweep back bars. 
>>
>> -Dave 
>>
>>
>> On 4/8/18, Dave Small <smallvint...@mac.com> wrote: 
>> > Thanks, Dave and iamkeith.  I'll do some cipherin' and figure out what 
>> I 
>> > would need. 
>> > 
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