On 03/22/2018 06:36 PM, iamkeith wrote:



    Honestly, I think that Weigle's got the "comfortable" and "long
    distance" things well in hand.  Maybe not the "tent plus cannibal
    cooking pot plus your entire wardrobe stuffed into a duffel bag"
    side of
    "touring," though.

...As does the Homer/Sam.    I know this wasn't your point, but others might misinterpret your comment as a suggestion that the Atlantis should have evolved into a low-trail, $15,000, weight-weenie,  all-road bike.

Perish the thought.  I was off on a tangent, reacting to extremes & fatbikes.  The Atlantis never entered into it.   Although, I suppose in a sense you could say the Atlantis is optimized for an extreme (loaded touring) vs bikes more aimed at the middle (what we used to call "sport touring").



    Now if only you had one of those Classic Rendezvous sigs like mine
    below...   Where do you live, anyway?


I live in Wyoming.  Just for kicks, here's a picture of my four most oft-ridden bikes, in my yard at this moment, /after/ the Spring solstice and an unusually mild winter.   I don't see how anyone could call that long-chainstay All Rounder (ie: Atlantis) the 'fringe' bike among them - unless they're talking the 'other' end of the spectrum.

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You have snow on the ground 7 months a year?   If so, maybe your "other bike" should be something like this

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On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 3:49:28 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:



    On 03/22/2018 05:42 PM, iamkeith wrote:
    > Jeesh, you guys.  I think that I, or maybe most of us, forget how
    > idiosyncratic our world views are.   I'm certainly guilty of
    > forgetting that most of this forum is made up of people how live
    in or
    > near urban areas and ride on paved surfaces - however 'rough'
    they may
    > be.  But remember that one man's fringe is another man's middle.
    >  That fatbike is what I'm forced to ride for 7 months out of a
    year,
    > if I wish to even get on a bike at all.   The other 5 months, my
    > actual "roads" look like backcountry trails compared to the
    buffed-out
    > fire trails in the hills around RBW Headquarters.

    Now if only you had one of those Classic Rendezvous sigs like mine
    below...   Where do you live, anyway?


    >
    > The Atlantis is NEVER going to be appropriate for even the middle
    > ground, for me.   A hard-tail, 29+ mountain bike, perhaps.  If you
    > want a bike in the vein of the Weigle/Heine Concours rig, get a
    damn
    > Homer or Sam.  The Atlantis is and always was optimized for
    > comfortable, long-distance touring on any surface it's likely to
    > encounter.

    Honestly, I think that Weigle's got the "comfortable" and "long
    distance" things well in hand.  Maybe not the "tent plus cannibal
    cooking pot plus your entire wardrobe stuffed into a duffel bag"
    side of
    "touring," though.



-- Steve Palincsar
    Alexandria, Virginia
    USA

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