Deacon- I appreciate your suggestion of fishnet base layers. I do not doubt their effectiveness. But "feels like wearing a nylon fishing net" for $88 (Wiggy's) doesn't sound attractive. Nor does the price of the Brynje versions.
I'm in the "buy used at half price or less" budget range (including my Riv), so I'm not seeing fishnet as a realistic option. The <$10 apiece synthetic stuff is doing pretty well for me now and staying within my budget. Bill in Roswell- In my experience, sweaty merino wool chills my chest, and I can't warm up until I remove it and get indoors. That is way worse than any over-cooling from the synthetics at higher wind speed. My merino is top-shelf Ibex stuff (bought used from listmembers) but it doesn't wick fast enough for my sweat level. The synthetic base layer wicks fast enough for my core to warm back up even if I get a little chilled. I wear a wind-blocking vest over my synthetic and merino layers, and that keeps my core from getting too chilled. And I've never experienced a situation where my exposed arms (with a two layers of merino over synthetic but no wind-blocking) cool faster than they warm up from activity (down to about 0 degrees F). But, everyone's bodies are different. For example, it has to be below 15 F before I put on heavy gloves or an additional head covering. Merino liner gloves inside normal full-finger cycling gloves, and my vented Bern Brentwood with a thin winter liner are sufficient for me in most cold weather. Many other folks need to bundle up a lot sooner; I'm just a furnace when I ride. It also matters that my winter riding is more often MTB and fat bike "stomping", which is high-intensity but lower relative wind speed. I stay off the paved roads most of the year, and especially so in the winter. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote: > Tim said, “However, I've found that I sweat too much to use merino wool as > a base layer; it eventually ends up clammy and cold against my skin.” > Bill in Roswell said “there is a temp point for me where the efficiency of > synthetics at moving moisture causes "chill off", i.e. cooling too fast.” > > Fishnet, lads. Fishnet. Then, what your insulative layer is no longer > matters. To test this out I rode with my insulative layer as a heavy cotton > flannel straight from the wringer and slightly dripping wet still at -10˚F, > sandwiched between fishnet base layer and ventile jacket for over an hour. > Though not toasty warm, it worked a charm, though the sleeves near the > wrist froze, I was only slightly chilled. After that, I had no problem > riding with cotton as my insulative layer, because no matter how much I > sweat, it’ll still be dryer than that. Grin. Wiggy’s version costs less > (and is the one I did the extreme test with), but feels like wearing a > nylon fishing net. The merino wool Brynje version costs more but feels much > better next to the skin. May be overkill for GA though? > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
