*I live in northern AZ now. Not so far north or high an elevation as 
Flagstaff (over 7000'), but Prescott which is right about 5400'; pretty 
much a perfect winter if you like just snow just a couple of times a winter.

On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 7:21:12 AM UTC-7, Kiley DeMond wrote:
>
> Exactly. Notice where he lives to understand his 'winter'! I lived in the 
> bay area for 30 years and winter was just rain, maybe fog, very very rarely 
> below freezing. One winter in Ann Arbor, and I bow to those who ride 
> through it. I had thirty-foot long wooden bridge over a pond with no side 
> rails as part of my bike commute, and all I could see was braking on it (or 
> black ice) and sliding right into the pond, so I ended up driving the mile 
> whenever it wasn't clear. 
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 8:11:26 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> hehe, "winter"
>
>

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