+1 on Stuart's comment. One of the challenging things about a Rivendell is 
that many of us must purchase them sight unseen. While this may be 
perfectly acceptable for aesthetics (or else we wouldn't buy them in the 
first place) or fit (I trust that the folks at Riv know their bikes), the 
ride quality is hard to judge without an actual spin on the bike. And 
speaking from personal experience, some Rivs ride amazing (to me) while 
some seem sluggish (again, to me). The SimpleOne is the best bike I have 
ever thrown a leg over. But I don't feel that way about some of the stouter 
models I've ridden. Now, I've never ridden an Appoloosa, but I imagine some 
people love the long chain stays (and the ride quality this produces), 
while some people don't...and for many of us, it's hard to know until you 
buy one. Either way it's a beautiful bike and I hope to one day ride one.

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:55:24 PM UTC-4, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>
> A lot, maybe not most, of people buy Rivs sight unseen. And because most 
> people have only ever ridden bikes with shorter wheelbases, it's not 
> necessarily clear exactly how a longer one will affect handling, especially 
> because everyone's bodies and abilities are different. I would say it all 
> ultimately depends on exactly how and where you ride the bike, so I 
> wouldn't write someone off for trying something new. 
>
> As for the Joe being the first and only bike of its kind, I'd say the Joe 
> is a nicer, upright version of the LHT so I wouldn't really make that claim 
> at all. I've attached some photos of the LHT I'm thinking of here. 
>

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