Filling in from a couple of people's questions: I bought the wheel used off this list, so I don't have a retailer to go to, but it came to me with the original rim (Dyad) which had very little wear, and was clearly well-built because I never had to touch it until the brake track was worn out. It was replaced with the spokes in the same orientation. Spoke tension near, but certainly not over, Velocity's recommended max. I rode it for about 5,600 miles before this happened, so I doubt it had 8,000 total given the condition when I got it. Nobody manages to avoid every single impact from a surprise pothole or whatever, but I don't ride it on technical singletrack or jump off curbs - and even then I would expect a broken spoke or dented rim before the hub flange goes.
-John On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:37:31 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I'm also in the "36 holes is already overkill" camp. I'm 230 lbs. > On the other hand, I did just build up two used King hubs and reversed the > spoke angles from the previous build, and I don't expect them to fail, > either. > > Philip > www.biketinker.com > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:46:03 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> Two people recommended a higher spoke count. >> >> I'll respectfully disagree with that advice. One might be in better >> shape going to a higher spoke count if they are breaking spokes. That >> failed hub flange broke between two spoke holes. If you go to a higher >> spoke count, that little chunk of material between any two spokes gets even >> smaller and even weaker. It is true that a good experienced wheelbuilder >> has a rule of thumb for spoke tension that they adjust as a function of >> number of spokes. Low spoke count wheels need higher tension and higher >> spoke count wheels do not need as high a tension. Even with that, I don't >> see a clear hypothesis that the OP caused the broken hub by using too few >> spokes. I'd be more apt to argue the opposite. 32 spokes is plenty with >> modern rims, and the hub flanges would be stronger with only 16 holes >> drilled in each flange. 36 spokes is plenty for any normal single person >> bike application. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:03:14 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote: >>> >>> I would press White a little more but maybe a higher spoke count is the >>> way to go >>> >>> Of course I'm assuming you sent White the photo and told them how long >>> you had the wheel and what kind of load you're carrying as you told >>> us...and note that kiddies in trailers tend to get heavier...I hauled my >>> son around a lot in a trailer but not touring as you did. At any rate, I'm >>> glad you found a reasonable replacement and carried on and had a great tour >>> in spite of this, and no one was hurt >>> >>> Anyway, I hope the story has a satisfactory ending >>> >>> One of the hallmarks of a great company is that they stand behind >>> their product. White hubs are pretty and pretty spendy >>> >>> Please let us know what happens. >>> >>> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:42:57 PM UTC-5, lconley wrote: >>>> >>>> I would go to 40 or 48 spokes for the next wheel. Why fool around >>>> trying to save a few grams on spokes. Replacing a wheel on tour is not >>>> worth it. Kind of like only carrying one water bottle to save weight in my >>>> mind. >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
