Patrick- As always - thanks for your wisdom. I'm definitely looking for functional vintage over spendy pretty bits.
The bike will be for serious rando so durability is an issue. I just don't like how most new/tech parts look so I'm always erring on side of shopping from the past where I can secure something that will look nice and still perform a job. I'm very intersted in Shimanon derailleurs that you mention. I'm just not sure which vintage to target. I'm current running friction on my bike with a TA crank and XTR rear. Not sure about the front derailleur. This bike has a compact double with a wide cluster in the back - requiring medium/long cage rd. I use the Tektro levers with the quick release button. I'd like to buy vintage aero levers if i can find one with the equivalent reach. I'm also looking for a lightweight handlebar that works for smaller hands. I use an on one midge bars which I like because of the short reach and wide top part. Most of the Nitto offerings are just too large/wide. I need something with a shallow drop. Not sure if anyone is making lightweight classic looking parts (ala Nitto) for smaller/shorter cyclists (and women). On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 3:46:39 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Leslie: It all depends what you mean by "vintage." Some "vintage" bits are > exorbitantly expensive -- Dura Ace 7410 brake lever hoods. Others are still > very reasonable -- Shimano 600 levers. 9 speed LX derailleurs IME shift > wonderfully; are those old enough to be "vintage"? > > 10 speed? 9? 8? 7? Fixed? > > And what sort of stuff. Racer? Mountain bike? Just ride? > > You can find on this list, on other lists, and on eBay, enough decent > non-current drivetrain, wheel, and other bits to build up a very nicely > working bike for far, far less than you'd pay for current, mid-level > Shimano bits. In fact, if there is a good bike shop near you, you may well > find bins and piles of abandoned 8 and 9 speed bits that work perfectly > well and that you can buy for pennies on the dollar. I know that I can do > this at 2 bike shops within 8 miles of where I live. > > My favorites, discounting my "style" affectation for 8-speed era Dura Ace: > old 8 speed XT derailleurs, cranks, and hubs and, even older, pre-XT > "Deore" 7 speed stuff, which may well have been the same stuff as the 8 > speed XT, just with different name and slightly different appearance. > > FWIW, I'm a man (I deprecate using "male" and "female" instead of "man" > and "woman", and I hate using "gender" instead of the proper word, "sex" -- > nouns have gender, people have sexes, though only 1 each), but I have > small, elegant, but bigger than Trumps hands, and I really like the old > Shimano aero levers -- easy to reach, and powerful in the pull. I've not > used any Campy levers except the old Record non-aeros, and the Shimano 600 > and forward aeros are far easier to use, IME. > > The beginning of a list: > > Hubs: 8 speed XT or 7 speed Deore or 8 or 9 speed LX > Derailleurs: ditto > Brakes: Mafac centerpulls are fine, as long as you don't use Mafac levers. > Shimano aero levers, it doesn't matter what vintage. Do use Koolstop salmon > pads, though. > Bar end shifters: the Silvers are wonderful, but fragile IME -- I've > broken 3. I like the old SunTour Power Ratchets. I shift 10 using mine, but > perhaps 8 may be easier. > Cranks: 3 of my 4 bikes have the old Pro 5 Vis; the 4th, for dirt roads, > has an old Ritchey Logic. Either of these, or the same 8 speed XT or 7 > speed Deore. If you can deal with 52/38 rings (I did; I just started my > cassette with a Miche 16 t outer cog), the Dura Ace 7410 crank is the most > beautiful crank ever made, over and out, amen. It takes a 103 mm bb > spindle, though. > > I build my own cassettes from cogs scavenged from bike shops; where I need > a special outer, I buy Miche. My 10 speed "road bike for dirt" has a > cobbled 14-15-16-17-18-19-20-22-24-28 driven by a 42/28, with Power > Ratchets pulling a 7410 rear derailleur. A modern, Nashbar "Microshift" rd > would work better, but would't look as nice. > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Lesli Larson <lesli....@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> It's been awhile since I sourced parts for a new bike. I haven't done >> this since I ordered my custom Riv ages ago. >> >> Use: randonneuring >> >> Question: what's the current wisdom regarding classic long cage >> derailleurs, front derailleurs, rear hubs (freewheel or cassette), >> seatposts and shifts? >> >> Have things gotten crazy expensive or is vintage still a viable >> alternative to new stuff. >> >> I'm sorry I missed out on the Riv Phil hub (what I have on my older road >> bike). >> >> I already have Mafac racers, a TA crank, and a set of Campy brake levers >> in hand. >> >> I'm a female with smallish hands and shortish stature. I'm going to set >> the bike up as a compact double with either bar-ends or downtube shifters. >> >> Wondering whether folks recommend in the way of classic, duable, stylish, >> lightweight parts? 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