Lesli: I set up one of my bikes with a Huret Duopar Eco rear derailleur, which I believe the great Frank Berto once called one of the best derailleurs ever made. It’s a bike heavy and complicated, but it does in fact shift very well (although it’s not indexed). I paired it with a matching Huret front derailleur and a set of Sachs friction levers (with a 7-speed cassette) for a decidedly French look.
The Duopar Eco is not very expensive and can be found pretty easily on eBay. If you want to drop some serious coin, wait for the much rarer titanium version to show up for sale. My experience with Mafac brakes and levers is a little different than Patrick’s. I have three bikes set up with Racers and Mafac levers, and they all work well. I do like the Mafac racer brakes, but it might be hard to find a set for recessed mounting, so that might be a problem depending on what frame you are mounting them on. A nice alternative to Mafac levers that I’ve found are the Gran Compe levers sold by Velo Orange: https://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers/gran-compe-202-non-aero-brake-levers-drilled.html I am using them with a set of Tektro long reach dual pivots, and they work just fine. I like the natural color gum lever hoods. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Leslie: It all depends what you mean by "vintage." Some "vintage" bits are > exorbitantly expensive -- Dura Ace 7410 brake lever hoods. Others are still > very reasonable -- Shimano 600 levers. 9 speed LX derailleurs IME shift > wonderfully; are those old enough to be "vintage"? > > 10 speed? 9? 8? 7? Fixed? > > And what sort of stuff. Racer? Mountain bike? Just ride? > > You can find on this list, on other lists, and on eBay, enough decent > non-current drivetrain, wheel, and other bits to build up a very nicely > working bike for far, far less than you'd pay for current, mid-level Shimano > bits. In fact, if there is a good bike shop near you, you may well find bins > and piles of abandoned 8 and 9 speed bits that work perfectly well and that > you can buy for pennies on the dollar. I know that I can do this at 2 bike > shops within 8 miles of where I live. > > My favorites, discounting my "style" affectation for 8-speed era Dura Ace: > old 8 speed XT derailleurs, cranks, and hubs and, even older, pre-XT "Deore" > 7 speed stuff, which may well have been the same stuff as the 8 speed XT, > just with different name and slightly different appearance. > > FWIW, I'm a man (I deprecate using "male" and "female" instead of "man" and > "woman", and I hate using "gender" instead of the proper word, "sex" -- nouns > have gender, people have sexes, though only 1 each), but I have small, > elegant, but bigger than Trumps hands, and I really like the old Shimano aero > levers -- easy to reach, and powerful in the pull. I've not used any Campy > levers except the old Record non-aeros, and the Shimano 600 and forward aeros > are far easier to use, IME. > > The beginning of a list: > > Hubs: 8 speed XT or 7 speed Deore or 8 or 9 speed LX > Derailleurs: ditto > Brakes: Mafac centerpulls are fine, as long as you don't use Mafac levers. > Shimano aero levers, it doesn't matter what vintage. Do use Koolstop salmon > pads, though. > Bar end shifters: the Silvers are wonderful, but fragile IME -- I've broken > 3. I like the old SunTour Power Ratchets. I shift 10 using mine, but perhaps > 8 may be easier. > Cranks: 3 of my 4 bikes have the old Pro 5 Vis; the 4th, for dirt roads, has > an old Ritchey Logic. Either of these, or the same 8 speed XT or 7 speed > Deore. If you can deal with 52/38 rings (I did; I just started my cassette > with a Miche 16 t outer cog), the Dura Ace 7410 crank is the most beautiful > crank ever made, over and out, amen. It takes a 103 mm bb spindle, though. > > I build my own cassettes from cogs scavenged from bike shops; where I need a > special outer, I buy Miche. My 10 speed "road bike for dirt" has a cobbled > 14-15-16-17-18-19-20-22-24-28 driven by a 42/28, with Power Ratchets pulling > a 7410 rear derailleur. A modern, Nashbar "Microshift" rd would work better, > but would't look as nice. > > >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Lesli Larson <lesli.lar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> It's been awhile since I sourced parts for a new bike. I haven't done this >> since I ordered my custom Riv ages ago. >> >> Use: randonneuring >> >> Question: what's the current wisdom regarding classic long cage derailleurs, >> front derailleurs, rear hubs (freewheel or cassette), seatposts and shifts? >> >> Have things gotten crazy expensive or is vintage still a viable alternative >> to new stuff. >> >> I'm sorry I missed out on the Riv Phil hub (what I have on my older road >> bike). >> >> I already have Mafac racers, a TA crank, and a set of Campy brake levers in >> hand. >> >> I'm a female with smallish hands and shortish stature. I'm going to set the >> bike up as a compact double with either bar-ends or downtube shifters. >> >> Wondering whether folks recommend in the way of classic, duable, stylish, >> lightweight parts? 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